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><(((\"> JLange
12-10-2003, 9:15 PM
http://www.noahs-marine.com/Noah_Images/PICS/Aquarium/120/DSCF0002.JPG
http://www.noahs-marine.com/Noah_Images/PICS/Aquarium/120/DSCF0013.JPG
I would like to discuss LARGE tanks & Filtering Systems.
JOhn :-)
pinballqueen
12-10-2003, 9:27 PM
I might can help you out. I have kept game species before. What would you like to know, as large tanks for a game species really aren't that different from any other large tank....
Also, how large is large? What is a Massive tank to you might be "eh" to someone else.....
For what it's worth, to keep any game species, at least 55 gallons is a must, most needing much larger....
EDIT: And by the way, whoever has that tank has way too many fish in it. Just an observation. Take it with a grain of salt :)
><(((\"> JLange
12-10-2003, 9:40 PM
HI
That is one of my 120G's, ammonia, nitrates, nitrite all at minimal levels.
Large tank "eh" 400G is the project I am working on now. In 2 years I am planning on 8,000G for our new store. i.e. "Monster Tanks"
Fish: Tiger Muskie, Bluegils, Bass, Sturgeon, etc.
Current quandary: Filtration. Wet/Dry, how big? quantity of bio media (bio balls, etc) GPH, etc?
You are right, I should have been more descript in my initial post.
TIA
JOhn ><>
sturgeon is the largest freshwater fish in the world. 8000g will not even come close.
VoodooChild
12-12-2003, 1:28 PM
Depends on what species. And the species you're referring too aren't true freshwater. They often inhabit saltwater as well. A shovelnose will do ok in a 400. Space wise at least. They're a bit tougher to feed. I would just buy like 6 Fluval 400's and place them evenly throughout the tank. What you've listed doesn't need that much current. Spray bars at the top will probably be greatly appreciated. Keep the water cool too. Just remember that most Lepomis are pretty aggressive so give the sunfish ample room to fight.
><(((\"> JLange
12-12-2003, 9:35 PM
Originally posted by Dean
sturgeon is the largest freshwater fish in the world. 8000g will not even come close.
"I apologize in advance, sometimes I get sarcastic"
Yes Sturgeon get a might large, but they take 75 or 100 years to get that way. By then Knowing me, I will probably have an 80,000 gallon tank (wait, I'm 47 + 75 = 122) I guess it doesn't really matter. {GRIN}
JOhn ><>
><(((\"> JLange
12-12-2003, 9:51 PM
Originally posted by VoodooChild
Depends on what species. And the species you're referring too aren't true freshwater. They often inhabit saltwater as well. A shovelnose will do ok in a 400. Space wise at least. They're a bit tougher to feed. I would just buy like 6 Fluval 400's and place them evenly throughout the tank. What you've listed doesn't need that much current. Spray bars at the top will probably be greatly appreciated. Keep the water cool too. Just remember that most Lepomis are pretty aggressive so give the sunfish ample room to fight.
Ouch with a quick search $95 each. Here is were my ignorance comes out, and I would love to discuss this more if you have time. Is there a reason why you would choose the Fluval's in stead of one large Wet/Dry sump? Or other system?
I have never used this kind of filter, from the pictures they look great, but $600 for filters is a little hard to chew. I am planning on building this tank for under $1000. (I Hope, I Hope)
JOhn :-)
jiggerpolebill
12-18-2003, 9:18 PM
did i miss a post? im pretty sure muskies, bluegills and bass(i believe he's refering to largemouth/smallmouth) are about as true freshwater as they come and cant survive in saltwater. im not trying to start anything but i've never heard of any of those 3 species being saltwater(except when they're filleted and being prepped for dinner!)
><(((\"> JLange
12-18-2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by jiggerpolebill
did i miss a post? im pretty sure muskies, bluegills and bass(i believe he's refering to largemouth/smallmouth) are about as true freshwater as they come and cant survive in saltwater. im not trying to start anything but i've never heard of any of those 3 species being saltwater(except when they're filleted and being prepped for dinner!)
The last couple of messages were about Sturgeon
JOhn ><>
M-pire
12-18-2003, 11:08 PM
Muskie get huge...have to be like 36" to keep here in Kentucky.
I have a 135g w/ a channel cat, bluegill, small carp, and a perch. Then in my 340 pond I have a big mud cat and an albino channel cat. Had a largemouth and it was the meanest thing, it could eat over 30 goldfish in a few minutes.
I collected driftwood and rock locally and just made a local tank.
This tank has definately been one of my favorite tanks over the years.
Sorry, I didnt really add anything to the discussion.
jiggerpolebill
12-19-2003, 12:27 PM
got any pics you could post of your tanks, M-pire?
><(((\"> JLange
12-19-2003, 7:27 PM
Originally posted by M-pire
Muskie get huge...have to be like 36" to keep here in Kentucky.
I have a 135g w/ a channel cat, bluegill, small carp, and a perch. Then in my 340 pond I have a big mud cat and an albino channel cat. Had a largemouth and it was the meanest thing, it could eat over 30 goldfish in a few minutes.
I collected driftwood and rock locally and just made a local tank.
This tank has definately been one of my favorite tanks over the years.
Sorry, I didnt really add anything to the discussion.
<B>You might have brought it back on track...</B>
How/what are you using to filter your 135g?
I have two Tetra Tec PF 500 and a UGF and seem to be keeping up.
I want to increase the size of this tank to 405g with more fish, and am unsure what it will take to filter a tank of this size.
JOhn ><>
M-pire
12-20-2003, 12:30 AM
- I've got a some pics that I'll try and post tomorrow night.
- Im a little embarassed to admit what I have filtering the 135. All I have on it is two of the Tetra Whisper 3 filters. (think its 3, which ever is the largest). I had a canister filter that used to run the tank, but it broke and I just slug these two on there for the time being...but I kept monitoring all the chemical levels and everything has stayed fine, and it has been close to a year running on just these two filters.
Of course I have a pretty light bio load in the tank and surely would have to upgrade if I added more.
The 340g filtration is much more interesting. I ran it about a year and a half on a homemade filter using a homedepot tool box and a large powerhead...basically a huge HOB filter. I'll get some pictures of it also. This filter worked excelent, and still does. It ran pretty well full stocked until a power outage killed off almost everything.
About 6 months ago I added an actual pond filter, a box w/ filter media and built in pump. It didn't need the extra filter, but I got it for free so it couldn't hurt.
- Also, because the tank is so deep, and the pond so large, I added powerheads to them both to keep things moving so that more than just the areas by the intake got cleaned.