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fauldsde
12-18-2002, 4:15 PM
My wife has been harrassing me to get her some fancy goldfish for her 29 gallon All glass tank... well I thought that these fish would get to big for that size of a tank but I wanted confirmation...
How big do these guys get???
Are there any that would go in a 29 gallon aquarium???
Thank you in advance for any replies.
Darkangel
12-18-2002, 4:19 PM
http://64.191.28.50/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1543 This is a link to that very topic. Have a look. Personally I think they get too big. They can easily reach 8 inches with tail. One at that size would be max in my opinion. Even small ones would suffer from such a small tank. This is just my opinion of course. Later.
fauldsde
12-18-2002, 4:23 PM
I was actually just reading that one... I guess I should have searched before I asked...
Thank you for the quick reply though...
Now I can tell her that I looked it up and chatted online and they get too big...
I thought that they did!!
fauldsde
12-18-2002, 4:39 PM
so you do not think that one fancy goldfish with an 8" pleco would do good...
Filtration: 2 Whisper 3 filters...
Water changes every two weeks...
goldfish freak
12-18-2002, 4:58 PM
It depends on the type of fancy goldfish, some types can grow to 12". The smaller types are celestial and bubble eyes. One large goldfish and an 8" pleco would be too much for a 29 gallon tank. I would suggest that if you really want to keep goldfish in that size tank to keep only one. Also you will need to do water changes more than once evey two weeks, especially as the goldfish grows larger. I would suggest you do water changes twice a week.
fauldsde
12-18-2002, 5:02 PM
ok... so another words for me...
no goldfish...
Thank you to everyone for your advice... :D
goldfries
12-18-2002, 8:15 PM
well i have more than 10 happy goldfish in my tank.
you may click on my signature and visit the gallery.
these goldfishes have been happy and healthy for at least 9 months now. prior to that they were living in a 1 gallon, then 10 gallon and now upgraded...........
feel free to mail me if you have questions on how my fish stay happy and healthy.
Darkangel
12-18-2002, 9:00 PM
Ten GF in a two foot long tank? Sure you may be able to keep them alive, but happy and healthy? I am not so sure about that. I saw your web site where you said "* Please do not try to talk to me about issues concerning 'overstock', 'ph', 'kh', 'tank size' and whatever other issues concerning my tank setup. ". Regardless of what you seem to believe that tank is way overstocked. Those fish may survive but I doubt they thrive. Have they doubled in size since you got them? GF that small should easily do that or more in 9 monthes. My three Ryukins are 6+ inches long and I have them in a 65 gallon tank (48x18x18 ) all to themselves. That is just there winter home. The rest of the year they live in a 300 gallon pond. The only way I could see this setup even remotely producing healthy fish is to have a constant flow of water through that tank changeing its volume 2 or 3 times a day. But hey this is all just my two cents worth.
Opinions differ, but you do not need tanks in the 100s of gallons to keep goldfish. They get big....they are "messy"...they like to eat, etc., etc, etc, etc. However, they are also colorful, active fish that develop real pet-like qualities.
Thanks to modern filtration and maintenance practices, you can probably keep two (maybe three) of the smaller, slower varieties like ryunkins, orandas, moors, fantails. Avoid comets, shubunkins, wakins, etc.
Double the "recommended" filtration rate (e.g, emporer 280 combined with AC200 or 300.)
Regular water changes
Let algea grow on the back wall (use black background)
If you really get into goldfish and purchase show quality fish, then increase the gallons per fish to 20-30G.
Two (possibly three) fancy goldfish would look great in a 29/30G tank.
BigFishDude
12-18-2002, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by JeffP
Opinions differ, but you do not need tanks in the 100s of gallons to keep goldfish. They get big....they are "messy"...they like to eat, etc., etc, etc, etc. However, they are also colorful, active fish that develop real pet-like qualities.
Thanks to modern filtration and maintenance practices, you can probably keep two (maybe three) of the smaller, slower varieties like ryunkins, orandas, moors, fantails. Avoid comets, shubunkins, wakins, etc.
Double the "recommended" filtration rate (e.g, emporer 280 combined with AC200 or 300.)
Regular water changes
Let algea grow on the back wall (use black background)
If you really get into goldfish and purchase show quality fish, then increase the gallons per fish to 20-30G.
Two (possibly three) fancy goldfish would look great in a 29/30G tank.
I think even two goldies in a 29gallon is pushing it.
I would stick with one goldfish in the 29 and NO pleco. Plecos are tropical and goldies are coldwater. The pleco will also suck the sides of the goldfish.
BigFishDude
12-18-2002, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by goldfries
well i have more than 10 happy goldfish in my tank.
you may click on my signature and visit the gallery.
these goldfishes have been happy and healthy for at least 9 months now. prior to that they were living in a 1 gallon, then 10 gallon and now upgraded...........
feel free to mail me if you have questions on how my fish stay happy and healthy.
checked out you web page .
Your goldfish tank looks like my goldfish tank used to many years ago.
5 black moors 5 feeders 2 orange fantails 1 calico fantail a dojo loach 4 cory cats. all in a 10g , don't even ask how they FIT let alone lived, because i'm still wondering myself:rolleyes: :o .
goldfries
12-19-2002, 9:14 PM
9 months no sickness is good. ;)
i have friends who had goldfishes with bigger tanks and better filtration and more water change and still have more diseases than mine.
they've grown much bigger now, not yet double but they are growing.
won't be long before they run out of space, that's why i'm preparing space for another 4ft tank.
Serrateeth_2002
12-19-2002, 9:22 PM
Goldfish happy?Do they have emotion?All i know their brains all have one thing in common,that is to EAT and EAT.
goldfries
12-19-2002, 9:24 PM
LOL good point. :p
nice nice nice fish in the gallery
Hey i have a few questions my goldfish keeps going to the bottom and sucks up the rocks and spits them back out i am afraid he/she is going to choke any one no y he or she is doing that
5g
4 1/2 inch fantail goldfish
5g
2inch oranda
Dangerdoll
03-10-2006, 2:47 PM
I've had two fancies in a 30 gallon and though it's pleasing to see, it's an awful lot of work. Water changes are a must twice a week to keep things stable, and they are above all, messy. The filter needs to be double that for a "typical" thirty gallon as well because of the high amount of waste. I just had one of mine put to sleep earlier this week and have the one left and can already see the difference in water quality.
meaghan9930
03-10-2006, 3:04 PM
Did you say you had 10 GF in a 1 Gallon tank? I know you siad you moved them to a 10 gal. which is still horrible. Its not the fact that they wont live its the fact that they wont be able to grow. I mean what if your mother stuck you and 9 other people in the closet and fed you and you had everything you need to live, but you would not thrive. Imagine how horrible that would be???
As far as the main question..I would put 1 GF in there if your wofe just really wants one. I think it will do okay, but no more than one especially if you have a 9" Pleco in there already.
Hope everything goes well!!
they get 5 or 6inches and sometimes 8