Help strange growth on my CPD! by 2jackedLUNGS

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This strange growth appeared on my CPD almost overnight. It must have appeared very recently. Any idea what it is and how I can treat it? This is the one with the best coloration and I would really like to save him. Thanks.

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Msjinkzd
how long have you had them? Any new additions?

2jackedLUNGS
Ive had them for more than 2 months. I added another CPD and a Rasbora Brigittae a week ago. So it could have come from the new additions.

Msjinkzd
Is the fish flashing at all? Look through the parasitic diseases in this guide and see if anything matches: http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200641
Any invertebrates in the tank which could be effected by treatment?

2jackedLUNGS
Flashing? Im not sure what that means. There are no invertebrates but there are live plants. I think the link you posted is not the right one. Thanks.
 
Here are some more photos I took from the top, its kind of hard to see because theres no light in the hospital tank.

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2Jacked, I felt like we could get more help for your CPD by posting info from your pms to me.

I've gotten pms from 2jacked re his sick CPD and I've been researching growths/lesions to try to help with this but can't find a definitive photograph to help with the diagnosis.

He had already started "Jungle All-In-One" after moving the fish to a hospital tank but it doesn't seem to be helping. I can't find info on Jungle All in One, so I'm not sure what is in that.

I recommended pristine water, and daily water changes in the hospital tank to keep ammonia at 0, until we can figure out what this is, and he has been doing that.

His parameters are being kept pristine, in the hospital and his main tank.

The fish has not been flashing and other than not eating much he is doing well in the hospital tank, but the lesion/growth is getting larger.

2Jacked, If you can provide the following info it may help us:

Can you describe the lesion a little bit more for us. If you could get a closer, clearer picture it would help, but a very detailed description of what you see might help.

Example:
Does the lesion/growth have a fine hair-like fuzzy quality, or more of a warty quality?
Do you see a cottony appearance, or is it filmy?
Do you see any filminess or dull flat areas on the fish in other parts of its body?
Do you see any red or raw areas in it or around it?
Are there any red colorations or streaks anywhere else on the fish?
Is it eating?
Have you seen it poop, and can you describe the poo: normal, stringy, dark, white, mucous-y,
Is his breathing affected: rapid, hanging out at the surface?

Also, are any of the other fish in the main tank showing any symptoms?

If there's a chance it is a bacterial infection we would want to jump on it with broad spectrum antibiotics, but I'm thinking it is likely a parasitic problem and don't want to miss the necessity of treating that as well.

I think this medication would be good to try as it treats parasitic, fungal infections and also helps with secondary bacterial infections. The combination of active meds in it work to give all around treatment since we don't know for sure what it is.

This med is from Jungle Labs.

Parasite Clear Tank Buddies
· Now with Praziquantel.
· Quickly clears external and internal parasites.
Helps prevent secondary infections.
Will not harm biological filtration.
No need to raise the water temperature.
STORE USE SIZE
Clears external and internal parasites. No need to raise the water temperature. Also helps prevent secondary infections and will not harm biological filtration. The fizz lets you know it's working!
Details: Wait 48 hours between treatments. Remove activated carbon. Change 25% of the water before each new treatment. For anchor worms, repeat treatment up to three times, once a week, for three weeks. For fish lice, treat once a week for three to five weeks. DO NOT OVERDOSE. Active ingredients: praziquantel; N-[[(N-Chlorophenyl)amino]carbon 1]-2,6-difluorobenzamide; metronidazole; acriflavine.

Mfg. Item No.SizeTB635 8 tabs


I would put carbon in the filter and do a big water change in the hospital tank and run it for a while to remove the current meds and then start the new medication. (remove carbon at that time)

If anyone has more knowledge of this issue, or has a better suggestion it is welcome.
2Jacked is trying hard to help his little guy and I hope we can help, too.

I mentioned to the OP that the tank is overstocked, but he has been maintaining excellent water quality and testing with API Master and doing frequent water changes. I advised a minimum of 10 gallons and suggest more as soon as possible, though he does have mostly tiny occupants.


EDIT: Good that you could provide more pics. I hope they will help others that see this post.
 
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2Jacked, I thought it would be helpful to post this from your pm just now to me.

This latest information may help.

"The wound has gotten larger, it looks like a pimple that ruptured. I can see pink flesh and at the center there are 3 white things poking out. I saw only 1 white thing before but now i see 3. He is not eating and Im worried because hes been in the hospital tank for four days now without eating. He is not breathing heavily and not hanging out at the surface. But is very lethargic. He doesnt even move much when I put a net in there he just kind of lets me move him. I took some pictures from the top but its hard because there isnt much light in the tank."


I'm really worried about him, 2Jacked. I am so sorry he's so sick, and I'm sorry I haven't been able to be of more help to you.

I hope someone else will be able to add insight and offer help.
 
Try rubbing garlic on his food, or soaking it in garlic juice. That's often something that encourages them to eat.
 
Update? How's your little guy? Hope he's hanging in there and you're seeing some improvement.
 
I'm sad to have to report that the CPD died. The op PM'd me with the update. He said that the lesion had what looked like two pimples in the center of it. I wish we knew for certain what it was.

I'm sorry for your loss 2JL.
 
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