need clarification on in fish cycling

aquanooby · Jul 30, 2009

i have been told 2 different things so im confused as to what is the correct thing to do.
method 1 do nothing to the tank no water changes no nothing till it cycles.
method 2 daily water changes.
as of yet ive done nothing. also light feeding ... and these little ones dont like that lol. i also have ich on two of the fish I have increased the heat and want to start salt. I'll wait to see what you all suggest.
my water params are Ph= 7.8 Nitrite=.25 ppm Nitrate = 10 ppm Amonia =1.0 ppm. i dont wanna make these guys more uncomfortable than they allready are

they all are active and have great appetites.

Twistersmom · Jul 30, 2009

When cycling with fish, I use method two.
Daily water changes if needed, to keep both ammonia and nitrites under .25 ppm.
You will still have a good cycle time, and less stress on the fish.

jpappy789 · Jul 31, 2009

no water changes = dead or permanently damaged fish at the very least.

Method #2, and try to keep ammonia/nitrite as low as possible.

aquanooby · Jul 31, 2009

okie dokie as soon as i get off work water change hmm what is a good % for a 36 gallon

jpappy789 · Jul 31, 2009

Enough to get the levels down to where your test is not able to pick them up.

aquanooby · Jul 31, 2009

OK just did a 50% wc haven't tested yet today I bought some Ich attack but didn't realize it says to remove carbon from the filter ... can I do this while cycling ?
Im gonna say a little prayer ...
Dear lord give us this day our daily cycle forgive us our infestations as we forgive those who infest against us

Reframer · Jul 31, 2009

jpappy789 said:
no water changes = dead or permanently damaged fish at the very least.

Method #2, and try to keep ammonia/nitrite as low as possible.

:iagree:
You can use it, just really watch your tests.

Twistersmom · Jul 31, 2009

You can use the ick attach during the cycle process.

Not sure if you are familiar with the heat treatment for ick, its my preferred method for ick removal.

Stress from ammonia and nitrites can make fish vulnerable to ick, so water changes and keeping the tank as free of ammonia and nitrites as possible, is going to help with this ick problem.

OldMan47 · Aug 2, 2009

For help on ich treatment that goes a bit beyond simple recommendations into the ich life cycle, check here.
http://www.skepticalaquarist.com/docs/health/ich.shtml

allecb · Aug 2, 2009

be careful how much salt you add.. i believe it was the main cause of wiping out all 8 of my tiger barbs. i did the recommended 2 teaspoons per gallon on this site. so i'd do less than that to be safe.

ive been doing WC to dilute the salt, but after 5 days i think my tigers are so damaged, their time is over (theres 2 left, and theyre not looking good)

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