New two small discus never eat from 5 days

[classic_entp]

Hello im in big trouble plz help

My tank is 35 gallon change 25% whater weeklly i have 3 angles from 4 months very peaceful with them and 1 tiger fish and 2 chinese algae eater and afcourse two new small discus they never eat from 5 days my temp was 26 to 27 but my friend told me i should have temp 30 now i brought a heater sos and install it temp is now 30, i try to feed them flakes , beefheart, bloodworms they even not look at food:shakehead: ....

[Star_Rider]

wow, where to start.

unfortunately, your tank is not appropriate for discus.

you should consider a different set up .
or possibly return the Discus.
tiger fish?
the chinese algae eaters are a bad idea in a discus tank.

at any rate your tank stock is questionable at best.

while angels can be raised with Discus . the discus may be shy or scared.. add the chinese algae eater and they may be hiding.
the Angels may also out compete the discus.

your discus sound shy and after 5 days of no food you need to be concerned with their health.
I would at very least suggest you consider to set up a 20 g qt tank and move them to that for now.

you should know that Discus do better in Schools.. 4-5 is the minimum and your tank will not be able to house that many long term.

young Discus also benefit with daily water changes. up to 50%.
and very warm water. 30 c is about right. but could also be higher.. add an airstone to increase circulation as warm water tends to hold less O2.

[jpappy789]

I totally agree with what star rider has said...by tiger fish do you mean tiger barbs (Puntius tetrazona)?

[classic_entp]

I totally agree with what star rider has said...by tiger fish do you mean tiger barbs (Puntius tetrazona)?
Yeah its tiger barb.
my problem is i can have only one tank and i just love angles and discus, i wish i must have in my tank i can remove my 1 tiger barb and 2 chinese algae eater but my tank is planted (only 1 Anubias barteri plant now) and tank size is 36" X 18" X 12
so plz suggest can i have 3 angles and 2 discus together in this tank? and what can i do now discus are bit active at night but shy in day light still never look at food as they never need it or they never no how to eat :(

[Star_Rider]

three angels and 2 discus..this tank will become overstocked.
discus need clean water? are the angels adults?

this tank is overstocked and the fish are a poor match.

discus should be in schools .

if you want discus you should read up on their needs.

you should consider a 55-75 gallon tank and up the stock level for discus.

a pair in this tank will be shy and as you can see..stressed.

discus know how to eat..if they are comfortable and not stressed they eat like pigs.

[classic_entp]

wow, where to start.

unfortunately, your tank is not appropriate for discus.

you should consider a different set up .
or possibly return the Discus.
tiger fish?
the chinese algae eaters are a bad idea in a discus tank.

at any rate your tank stock is questionable at best.

while angels can be raised with Discus . the discus may be shy or scared.. add the chinese algae eater and they may be hiding.
the Angels may also out compete the discus.

your discus sound shy and after 5 days of no food you need to be concerned with their health.
I would at very least suggest you consider to set up a 20 g qt tank and move them to that for now.

you should know that Discus do better in Schools.. 4-5 is the minimum and your tank will not be able to house that many long term.

young Discus also benefit with daily water changes. up to 50%.
and very warm water. 30 c is about right. but could also be higher.. add an airstone to increase circulation as warm water tends to hold less O2.
thanks for your kind suggestions i kept in my mind.
i just now make partition with a piece of glass in my tank and separate all other fishes in small area and discus in big area with heater.
they can look other fishes in glass, is this works?? :nilly:

[Star_Rider]

I responded to your pm.

this is still not a good solution.
but better than you had..

[yourchoice]

THe glass thing is not going to work,the tank is too small.Best to take them back if you only had them 5 days.Their too stressed to eat ,quickly get sick if not already.

[classic_entp]

THe glass thing is not going to work,the tank is too small.Best to take them back if you only had them 5 days.Their too stressed to eat ,quickly get sick if not already.

yesterday i just make my decision:confused: and decided to have discus only so today i kick out my lovely angles :headshake2:and all other fishes from tank and give them to seller, yesterday also i called him to arrange one more pair of discus SOS for me to provide schooling environment so he got my pair from big city (from importer) it almost double in size all 4 discus are alone in tank and i feel they are fine, new pair is very tired one of them is lay down for rest but bit ok in my tank now im providing them good O2 with water flow of airstone and pumps

[pinkertd]

Discus to not lay down to rest.

[classic_entp]

Discus to not lay down to rest.
Yeah it was just tired now its ok and maybe start eating soon...

[classic_entp]

my discus fishes use a every small quantity of dry blood worms only they never eat any thing else ( i maintained my water temp at 86 F and change 30% water every second day) i try flakes, fresh piece of beef heart ...

[froglover007]

Sounds like you are trying as best you can but you did make a mistake in getting discus for a 30 gallon tank. You should consider getting a larger tank and make sure you keep up on the tank maintenence.

[The Zigman]

Wow...

4 discus in a 30 gal tank is not a good plan, especially if there is a large pair, and 2 smaller fish. As stated before discus should be kept in groups of 5 or more... and they should be in at least a 75 gal tank.

Not sure what else to say that hasnt already been said.

[classic_entp]

people really disappointing me actually my problem is i cant have big tank, i read minimum requirement for discus is 30 gal and my fishes are small enough small pair is not above 2 inches and big one is 3 inches i never want to overload my tank just want to take them healthy and can i have some Cardinal Tetra with them in this tank??

[kyryah]

NO. You may ABSOLUTELY not add more fish to this tank! Just because the discus are small now, do you think they will never grow? Keeping them in a tank that small will stunt their growth and is very, very cruel.

We all gave our advice. You are choosing not to take it. If you cannot have a bigger tank, 55 gallons at least, then your discus will never be healthy. We are not saying these things to "dissapoint" you, but because we don't want to see your fish die. You are choosing not to listen, and there is nothing we can do about that. Best of luck to you, but I fear that the worst will happen.

Kristina

[Chrisinator]

NO. You may ABSOLUTELY not add more fish to this tank! Just because the discus are small now, do you think they will never grow? Keeping them in a tank that small will stunt their growth and is very, very cruel.

We all gave our advice. You are choosing not to take it. If you cannot have a bigger tank, 55 gallons at least, then your discus will never be healthy. We are not saying these things to "dissapoint" you, but because we don't want to see your fish die. You are choosing not to listen, and there is nothing we can do about that. Best of luck to you, but I fear that the worst will happen.

Kristina

Amen

[jpappy789]

Agreed. Where did you read that 30 gallons is okay for a discus tank? Whatever site that was, its a horrible source. Please listen to the people on this site, they know what they are talking about.

Discus are large-bodied fish. Imagine how crowded it would be if 4 dinner sized plates where swimming around your 30 gallon tank. I hate to be so blunt, but I guarantee you discus will not live a healty life.

Please return the discus and do more research on the potential fish you want. The members of AC are here to help answer any questions you have. Its a great resource!

[Chrisinator]

Dude, if your upset that you cant' get a bigger tank than a 35G, if it makes you feel better, I can only have a 10G as of now (possible future upgrade). I know what your going through, so don't get mad at anyone. I absolutely love Angelfish and Discus. And Im bummed that I can't keep them. If you really like the Angels, I'd choose those since I'd rather not kill the fish. Angels would be better suited in your tank. The point of keeping the fish is to keep them alive and I think you want them to stay alive.

If someone already told you to return the Discus since your overstocked, why would you wanna add more Cardinal Tetras. Also, discus will grow much bigger than Angels and will definitely eat your Cardinals.

Don't get so upset, just think about what their trying to tell you. I went through the same thing and knew that my point of keeping wish was to keep them alive and healthy. Which won't work if they're stunted.

Good luck.

[classic_entp]

Hmmmm oooh God help me, ok i never add any think in my tank and just grow up my 4 small discus in this small tank for one year and after that i arrange a big one tank for them...
thanks all of you 4 ur kind suggestions, God bless all of you.

[kyryah]

One year won't cut it. They will be either permanently stunted or dead long, LONG before that. They need a bigger tank. They needed it before you got them.

Kristina

[classic_entp]

One year won't cut it. They will be either permanently stunted or dead long, LONG before that. They need a bigger tank. They needed it before you got them.

Kristina
well my tank seems to be ok at this time because 4 small discus have too much space but i will change my tank ASAP within few months inshallah:thumbsup::iagree: