algae problem - decreased lighting and excel?

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so, I have quite the green algae problem in my 46 gallon planted tank. I know this is because I have been leaving my lights on WAY TOO long everyday. I'll just say this...... fourteen hours. I know, I know!!! So now I have reset my lights for 6 hours to kill off the algae.

Will this work? Should I use less light? I want to get rid of the algae, but I don't want to hurt my plants.

How long will it take to kill the algae? I've heard others say they are dosing excel to kill the algae. I dose excel once a week at water change time. If I use it to help kill the algae, how much/how often should I dose?

I appreciate all replies!
 
The problem might be more complicated than that, although I am certain the photoperiod was a major contributor. Most say 8-10 hours a day for planted tanks. I prefer to be on the low end. 6 hours/day should be fine for a bit, but it may be a stretch to expect the plants to grow well with that photoperiod for a much longer time.

Could you give us more info on the setup?

Tank size, stock (both fish and plants), light fixture and bulbs, Co2 or fert dosing (if applicable)...

Excel wouldnt hurt and depending on the type of algae, might kill it off...but I wouldnt rely on that. If anything it would help plants that otherwise would be carbon deprived. Without knowing much about your setup its hard to say if its needed or just a benefit.

Another "quick fix" would be to cut back on feeding to limit nutrients and see where that takes you. Most algae problems have more than one underlying cause and it takes some tweaking to get things back on track.
 
Certainly.

46 gallon bowfront. planted with mostly amazon swords, giant hygo, willow hygro and some other plant that I don't know the name of.

Fish are: 4 angels (but rehoming 2 of them tomorrow)
2 small bala sharks
3 oto's. (i think, I only ever see one of them, except about once every 2 months I happen to see all 3 at once)
10 cardinal tetras

I dose with flourish and excel once a week during water changes. I also use root tabs for ferts. No CO2 at all. I get a small amount of growth, which is all I want.

I feed either flakes, brine shrimp, or bloodworms once a day. I really try hard not to, but it is possible I overfeed a bit. my filters get pretty gunky.

I use both strip and a master liquid test kit. All water params are good. Nitrite 0 Nitrate 10, Ammonia 0. Water is soft. PH is 7.6

Light is one I ordered off internet for a planted tank. it's a pink bulb and a blue bulb with (I think, trying to remember) 39 watts per bulb.
 
do you have any snails or pleco and yes just one pleco would work. your lights yes 6 hours a day and 7 hours sat and sun. as far as time maybe lookin at 3 to 4 weeks. never have use chemicals to do it just take your time and be patient is all you can do.but yes specs are always helpful
 
dont add a fish to cure an algae problem, because once you have your algae under control you then have the problem of starving a fish in your tank..

do you know what kind of algae it actually is? different algaes have different causes. GSA can be related to phosphates, BBA can be related to co2, hair, green water, and a whole lot of other algaes all have their own cause.

what kind of lights do you have on top of this tank? and also, is the tank receiving any sunlight, either direct or indirect?

-chris
 
the tank may be receiving some (very little) light from a window. I don't know what kind of agae it is. It's bright green, fuzzy and growing on everything, from the glass to leaves on plants, driftwood, filter intake. The tank has been set up for just over 4 months and the algae has come about in the last month. The angels pick at the algae a bit. the light, if I remember correctly, is a 36" nova extreme for planted tanks. pink bulb, blue bulb, 39 watts each.
46 gallon bowfront. planted with mostly amazon swords, giant hygo, willow hygro and some other plant that I don't know the name of.

Fish are: 4 angels (but rehoming 2 of them tomorrow)
2 small bala sharks
3 oto's. (i think, I only ever see one of them, except about once every 2 months I happen to see all 3 at once)
10 cardinal tetras

I dose with flourish and excel once a week during water changes. I also use root tabs for ferts. No CO2 at all. I get a small amount of growth, which is all I want.

I feed either flakes, brine shrimp, or bloodworms once a day. I really try hard not to, but it is possible I overfeed a bit. my filters get pretty gunky.

I use both strip and a master liquid test kit. All water params are good. Nitrite 0 Nitrate 10, Ammonia 0. Water is soft. PH is 7.6
 
I agree with coach. Not to mention more fish = more waste = more nutrients, which can foster more algae growth if things fall out of balance. With feeding, try to make sure everything you add gets eaten and nothing hits the bottom of the tank.

Your algae sorta sounds like BBA, although it tends to be a darker green/black/brown color. A pic would be very helpful in ID'ing the algae.

With your tank specs I'd be inclined to start dosing excel more than once a week, if not daily. Don't quote me on this but I believe excel has a negative effect on BBA and some other types of algae, especially when dosed directly. Your root tabs will mostly benefit heavy root feeders like swords or crypts. I would try not to go overboard with those either unless you have a ton of those types of plants.

I'd also ditch the "blue bulb" as it is probably actinic light, which is practically useless to plants. Replace it with something more favorable to plants. 6700 or 10000 K is usually what I go with, and I actually prefer a mixture. Your pink bulb is probably around 8000K. A better light source will help the plants take in those nutrients and along with a better carbon source, which will help tremendously, you should be on your way to a more balanced tank. It takes time and practice.
 
i would reduce your photo period too 7 +/- 1 hour.

and increase your dosing as per the bottles.

do a weekly 50% water change.

Limit your feeding - 1x a day and only as much as the fish will eat in a few minutes. feed just a small small pinch, let them eat all of it, then feed another small small small pinch and then let them eat all of it. it is much better than just dumping a bunch in and hoping they can manage to eat it all before it hits the bottom and they dont see it anymore. also, fast your fish 1 day/week. no food, no snacks, no treats.

i think doing all of the above will be a good start.
 
ok thanks everyone!
 
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