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thebrandon
10-01-2009, 9:09 PM
What would be a good semi aquatic frog? Something similar to a firebelly toad, but possibly bigger?
I'm going to be turning my 50 into a paludarium
DeeSeven
10-01-2009, 10:13 PM
semi aquatic would be bullfrog, fire belly theres some others im missing but thats the most common
Vicious_Fish
10-01-2009, 10:43 PM
Vietnamese Mossy Frogs!
FindingBlemo
10-01-2009, 10:46 PM
Here's a few!
White's Tree Frog:
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/paludarium/whites.jpg
Green Tree Frog:
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/paludarium/green_frog.jpg
Roughskin Newt:
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/paludarium/newt1.jpghttp://badmanstropicalfish.com/paludarium/newt.jpg
Firebelly Toad:
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/paludarium/fire-belly.jpg
http://badmanstropicalfish.com/paludarium/0022.jpg
Or with a tank that large, you could make it more terrarium than paludarium and get a:
Ridgetail Monitor (aka Spiny Tailed Monitor):
http://images-2.redbubble.net/img/art/size:large/view:main/2096556-2-ridge-tail-monitor-varanus-acanthurus.jpg
Click here for more on the Spiny Tailed Monitor. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiny-tailed_monitor)
gotglock
10-01-2009, 10:47 PM
Leopard Frogs are facinating, and pretty.
FindingBlemo
10-01-2009, 10:50 PM
Vietnamese Mossy Frogs!
Vietnamese Mossy Frogs are on the expensive side, ranging around $50 each. They used to be incredibly expensive (up to $400 in some cases) but recently, they've dropped a ton due to more awareness and breeders bringing them into the hobby.
thebrandon
10-01-2009, 11:01 PM
There are more options then I thought!
after looking around, and checking what is available locally. I think I am going to be going with firebelly toads. They are cheap and look great, at least to me:)
Any tips on keeping them? Or any tips for setting up a paludarium, this will be my first one.
Vicious_Fish
10-02-2009, 9:08 AM
Vietnamese Mossy Frogs are on the expensive side, ranging around $50 each. They used to be incredibly expensive (up to $400 in some cases) but recently, they've dropped a ton due to more awareness and breeders bringing them into the hobby.
Yes they are expensive but they aren't hard to keep and breed in captivity. Consider them an investment animal. Speaking of expensive, you are recommending the OP to buy an ackie! Talk about pricey, lol.
thebrandon
10-02-2009, 2:00 PM
Is this true?? That's crazy!
"They also are believed to have the ability to choose sex depending on the dominance of the group, never a male heavy ratio."
Moesmom
10-02-2009, 3:30 PM
I am going to jump into this discussion because that is what I am considering doing soon with my 55 gallon. I was at Petco recently and saw they had fire bellied toads for like $3.95 each. Just not sure yet how I am going to set this tank up, what ratio of water to land, and if I should put some fish or something else in the water? Will be interested to see what others say about their paladariums.
thebrandon
10-02-2009, 3:41 PM
I'm going to be experimenting with fish in there. I've read that the toads will eat fish like guppies on occasion.
After seeing the mossy frogs though, I may be getting some. They are beautiful!
I'm going to be using cork bark, rocks and pieces of manzanita for the back ground. I have some interesting rocks that will be going in that the frogs can use easily to get in and out of the water.
Vicious_Fish
10-02-2009, 3:50 PM
what ratio of water to land, and if I should put some fish or something else in the water?
FBTs are aquatic but they do spend a good deal of time on land. A setup with half land/half water is fine. Or you could do a 1/3 land to water ratio.
I've never kept FBTs- although I'm tempted because I want to set up a Paludarium one day... It's one of those "I will one day" projects...
I'm going to be experimenting with fish in there. I've read that the toads will eat fish like guppies on occasion.
... I seem to recall that FBTs should only be kept as a species tank- not with fish because they secrete a toxin from their skins.
Not sure I'm remembering correctly- but I think I read that once.
thebrandon
10-02-2009, 4:50 PM
This is sort of what I had in mind. Should give you a general idea of what I'm trying to do. The top picture is a top view, second picture is a front view. The rectangle in the top left corner is going to be a built in sump as long as plans go the way they are supposed to. If see anything that could potentially be a problem, or have suggestions please let me know.
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee328/circleater/paludarium.jpg
thebrandon
10-02-2009, 4:51 PM
... I seem to recall that FBTs should only be kept as a species tank- not with fish because they secrete a toxin from their skins.
Not sure I'm remembering correctly- but I think I read that once.
I'll have to look into that then, if thats the case then I can't do fish, or I'll have to pick another animal to go in there:nilly:
EDIT:
From what I have read so far it seems fish can be kept, might end up as food though, as long as there is enough water and the water is filtered well.
Moesmom
10-03-2009, 11:05 AM
Brandon,
Can you explain the pics of your plans to me? What are you using to divide the water from land? What are the arrows for?
thebrandon
10-04-2009, 3:03 AM
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee328/circleater/paludarium.jpg
Arrows in the first pic show generally how the water will flow. In somewhere through the bottom of the land area, into the sump, then back out into the water area, pretty simple, I've set up a slightly smaller version of what I want this to be like with another tank and the sump idea works great and should provide wonderful filtration.
Plexiglas will be used to divide land from water and create the sump. I've used plexi before and have had good results and like how easy it is to manipulate when it comes to cutting pieces or bending them.
The plexi will be covered with cork bark, rocks, and manzanita, this will also be used to make some land areas. The cork bark will also be a place to attatch some plants or place some small pools/pots/ledges.
If youhave any other questions let me know, or if that didn't explain anything at all let me know, I'll try and make another picture that is a litte easier to read lol. I don't had CAD at my house, so paint is the best I can do for you all.
Moesmom
10-04-2009, 9:13 AM
That explaination really helped, thanks. Another question though. On the land side I am thinking that you are not going to use gravel or dirt because the water need to pass through it? Can you post a picture of the small tank that you mentioned?
thebrandon
10-04-2009, 9:19 AM
I've torn apart the smaller tank so it's not set up anymore, sorry:(
Depending on where the intake for the sump actually goes will depend on where I can and can't have dirt. If anything I will end up making a shelf, or a tube sort of for water to pass under and dirt to be above.
Here is a question for all of you. Are coffee grounds safe to use in a paludarium? I have about 25 pounds that I can mix in with dirt.