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classic_entp
10-16-2009, 5:34 AM
Hello Friends,
Very unusual but its happened to my discus today when im feeding them dried blood worms, one of my discus eating and suddenly it moves swiftly around many times and jump out side the water and then it went to ground, month of discus is down and it move around in aquarium but now slowly and then hide it self downer rock laying over there, when i feel its dead but after 30 minutes when i move the rock it came out and bit fine now it stuck in side of aquarium.
All of my fishes are perfect included that fish water parameters are fine and temp is 28 to 30 also ....

classic_entp
10-16-2009, 8:59 AM
Hello Friends,
Very unusual but its happened to my discus today when im feeding them dried blood worms, one of my discus eating and suddenly it moves swiftly around many times and jump out side the water and then it went to ground, month of discus is down and it move around in aquarium but now slowly and then hide it self downer rock laying over there, when i feel its dead but after 30 minutes when i move the rock it came out and bit fine now it stuck in side of aquarium.
All of my fishes are perfect included that fish water parameters are fine and temp is 28 to 30 also ....
Hello i dont think so its Epilepsy attack bcz after 5 hours when i feed them second meal (flakes) that discus come up and try to eat flakes and the same thing happen again with it, its start moves swiftly around many times and jump out side the water and then go back down the down after some time its bit ok (this attack happened only when it come up for eating)
i dont no what the hell happening when it, i change my 30% water after that hopes it will be fine tomorrow

SubRosa
10-16-2009, 9:08 AM
Get a scrip for Dilantin and add some to the food. Jk!

kyryah
10-16-2009, 9:33 AM
It probably has something to do with the fact that your tank is horribly overstocked, that is if you still have 4 discus, a tiger barb and the other fish in a 30 gallon tank.

Kristina

classic_entp
10-16-2009, 12:56 PM
It probably has something to do with the fact that your tank is horribly overstocked, that is if you still have 4 discus, a tiger barb and the other fish in a 30 gallon tank.

Kristina

Kristina your are not right i have only 4 small discus in my 34 gallon tank now, No other fish over there and tank is big enough for these small discus.
2 discus 2inch large
2 discus 3 inch large ( One of this have this problem)

Star_Rider
10-16-2009, 1:41 PM
please post all the water parameters.

include NH3/NH4, NO2 , NO3
also the feeding regime as well as maintenance.

could be cramped tank conditions..but I suspect there could also be something else contributing.
is the discus flashing? hiding, clamped fins?

gotglock
10-16-2009, 2:51 PM
Kristina your are not right i have only 4 small discus in my 34 gallon tank now, No other fish over there and tank is big enough for these small discus.
2 discus 2inch large
2 discus 3 inch large ( One of this have this problem)

No, that is a bit overstocked. Discus like swimming room. This sounds a bit like the tank is over stocked. Or you have a discus with a neurological disorder.

classic_entp
10-16-2009, 3:47 PM
please post all the water parameters.

include NH3/NH4, NO2 , NO3
also the feeding regime as well as maintenance.

could be cramped tank conditions..but I suspect there could also be something else contributing.
is the discus flashing? hiding, clamped fins?
i mostly change my 30% water 2 times in a week bcz i never have any powerhead filter or canister filter in my tank just a diy sponge kind of filter only
feeding them 3 times in a day (in morning dried bloodworm and 2 flakes) and using no light at night
never seen any kind of sign that shows fishes are ill or stressed that discus is now fine doing well but its happen with it just today at eating time in past it eat very well anyhow i will see it tomorrow hope its never happen again with it

SubRosa
10-16-2009, 5:35 PM
Some men you just can't reach.....

jpappy789
10-16-2009, 10:26 PM
So you ask about your fish acting weird but then state that they can't possibly be ill or stressed? Makes sense...

classic_entp
10-17-2009, 2:33 AM
So you ask about your fish acting weird but then state that they can't possibly be ill or stressed? Makes sense...
Jpappy i never say anything like that today at first meal its fine and eat the flakes easily i think there must me something wrong in water yesterday

Sammysaddiction
10-17-2009, 2:42 AM
You should do a large water change until someone can help you further. Large as in 50% to 75%. I thought with discus you were supposed to change their water every day at like 80%? Thats the main reason that I don't want those beautiful fish.

Riiz
10-17-2009, 3:35 AM
You should do a large water change until someone can help you further. Large as in 50% to 75%. I thought with discus you were supposed to change their water every day at like 80%? Thats the main reason that I don't want those beautiful fish.

Not quite, but juveniles do need large and frequent water changes. I have recently been bitten by the discus bug, and now have a 120gal with a dozen 2.5+" juveniles. I do 50% waterchanges every other day, which is actually not very hard to do, if you have a python or similar setup.


To the OP, I would increase my water changes to 50%, 3 times a week at the minimum. Since you state that you only have a DIY sponge-filter, your tank could be building up with toxic nitrogenous compounds, so maybe add another sponge filter or increase those water changes.

Also that 34gal might be a tad small, once those discus reach maturity, most discus nuts agree that 10gal is the minimum per fish. Just something to think about in the near future, if you have the chance to grab something bigger.

SubRosa
10-17-2009, 10:26 AM
Let's try this one more time. Adjectives such as "fine", "perfect", etc have no place in a discussion of water quality. Post some numbers or this whole thread is pretty much pointless.

classic_entp
10-17-2009, 12:38 PM
Not quite, but juveniles do need large and frequent water changes. I have recently been bitten by the discus bug, and now have a 120gal with a dozen 2.5+" juveniles. I do 50% waterchanges every other day, which is actually not very hard to do, if you have a python or similar setup.


To the OP, I would increase my water changes to 50%, 3 times a week at the minimum. Since you state that you only have a DIY sponge-filter, your tank could be building up with toxic nitrogenous compounds, so maybe add another sponge filter or increase those water changes.

Also that 34gal might be a tad small, once those discus reach maturity, most discus nuts agree that 10gal is the minimum per fish. Just something to think about in the near future, if you have the chance to grab something bigger.

http://www.discusnada.org/discus/juvenile_tank_1.jpg
i have 3 this kind of juveniles and one blue, my discus are small and riiz thanks for sharing your experience its really mean a lot for me and good news is my discus which have that issue is fine today at meal times and i should arrange power head filter next week and now change water as i do in past (almost 3 times 120% in week) :D

froglover007
10-17-2009, 12:49 PM
Sounds like you are doing fairly well but you should really increase filtration and get a bigger tank. THey need a large tank in adulthood.

Draal5
10-23-2009, 11:22 AM
For a newbie to discus your tank is undersized it leaves you no room for error in water quality.

If you continue to keep them in this small tank you will need to do min of 50% WC every other day. Your maintenance right now will stunt your discus. It needs to change.

you need to test for nitrates and change water if you read more than 5ppm.

Discus are very skittish fish they will some time for what seems like no apparent reason do what you describe especially juveniles.

theredchaser
10-23-2009, 11:37 AM
Your discus are already stunted. Juveniles need 50% daily (75% is better) to avoid stunting in a decent sized tank. Its not too late though, they're only halfway through their juvenile stage so you can try growing them out more.

Stunted discus aren't the end of the world though... They perform just like their normal counterparts. My female was stunted when I got her and she's doing fine.

I would try to get a cheap 55 gallon tank on craigslist. Breeders can use smaller tanks for growing, but they change their water 90%+ daily.

sushiray
10-23-2009, 12:02 PM
listen to all this good advice! I tried but I still had some issues. discus CAN BE difficult tho many have much success. so to increase your success rate, listen & do. w/c is critical & water testing (suggest API master test kit, no strips). so give us your test kit results so members can guide you better.

discus_lover
10-23-2009, 10:04 PM
there are some articles you may find in my blog about this thing..you may read this...
http://discusfishcaresecrets.blogspot.com/