system for my car.

[austinpetemo]

im looking to buy a system for my car. is this a good setup?

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_20080_Absolute+SNA-2000.4.html

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_9522_Crunch+GTR693i.html

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_20414_Lanzar+VW15D.html

the door speakers are going to run off the amp as well as the subwoofer. will this rattle the ever living crap out of my 1988 ford taurus?

[l3lhsl3]

no


go with 2 kicker Cvr 12's about 70 each well thats what i can get em for sealed box hifonics 1200-bd mono block amp puts out 1200rms at 1ohm

get 2 dual 2ohm voice coil subs positive negative on each wire together give u a 0.5ohm load turn amp half way down as for door speakers thats up to u that amp u picked really wouldent be a good choice but if your looking for some low end stereo then i guess that would be for u

[austinpetemo]

i dont want anything too serious but im on a low budget and that seemed to fit. will have good voice and bump? cuz i really dont know much about these, and when i showed this setup to the people at my school that have some pretty loud systems they were like "woa thats gonna best out ours" so i figure it should be fine but idk. im trying to keep things around $200 and that comes to $206 so it works. what would the kind of system you sugested cost?

[l3lhsl3]

i dont want anything too serious but im on a low budget and that seemed to fit. will have good voice and bump? cuz i really dont know much about these, and when i showed this setup to the people at my school that have some pretty loud systems they were like "woa thats gonna best out ours" so i figure it should be fine but idk. im trying to keep things around $200 and that comes to $206 so it works. what would the kind of system you sugested cost?


amps 200 subs and box prolly another 200


i mean i define loud differently then some people lol so its hard to say

but running sub woofers off a 4 channel amp isnt gonna work i mean it will work but its not right

give me a couple mins ill put together somthin for u

[austinpetemo]

ok. that 206 includes shipping so make sure the shipping isnt a killer.

[l3lhsl3]

if your working with 200$

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/3638298/vpcsid/0/SFV/30046 2 of those 90 $

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/7378831/vpcsid/0/SFV/30046

200$ doesnt really give u alot of options but if u want a decent sound id go with that for the subs then save up for the door speakers

[l3lhsl3]

this is tough i dident even include the box and niether did u thats about another 50$

and the wires and rcas

who is going to install this?

what kind of head unit do u have now (radio) is it aftermarket or stock?

[coach_z]

i am going to tell you waht you dont want to hear:
dont waste your money. i have been there and done that and in the end all you get is broke.

what you dont want to hear part 2:
if you are going to do iit do it with high quality pieces because it will only sound as good as your cheapest component

part 3:
200 bucks wont get you very far

what you do want to hear:
good luck!

[l3lhsl3]

i am going to tell you waht you dont want to hear:
dont waste your money. i have been there and done that and in the end all you get is broke.

what you dont want to hear part 2:
if you are going to do iit do it with high quality pieces because it will only sound as good as your cheapest component

part 3:
200 bucks wont get you very far

what you do want to hear:
good luck!


its a hobby everything cost money and will get u broke

[austinpetemo]

i can build the enclosure. my friends made theirs. its a 1988 model so the factory speakers are either crap, or broken, friends will install and have spare wire. whats an RCA? needs a new radio with a aux port and perferably a cd player.

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[l3lhsl3]

i can build the enclosure. my friends made theirs. its a 1988 model so the factory speakers are either crap, or broken, friends will install and have spare wire. whats an RCA? needs a new radio with a aux port and perferably a cd player.

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A standard type of cable used to transmit analog (http://www.webopedia.com/term/r/analog.html) audio


they carry the sound from the headunit to the amp

[austinpetemo]

also. i noticed the subs you suggested are only 300w max. the 15in that i liked is 2000w max and seems to be rated at higher tonal qualities

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[Woodward]

i would save up some more money....

and when you do decide to put a system in...make sure to keep your doors LOCKED!!!!

triple check at night..




i know all to well how badly it sucks to get your subs and amp stolen :irked:

[austinpetemo]

i dont have to worry about that. i live in tha middle of nowhere.

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[l3lhsl3]

that sub u posted is a lanzar they make crap stuff

thats why its only 49$

and u said u wanna spend 200$ if that subs truly 2000rms Which i highly doubt u wouldent be spending more then 200 on just the amp

buy what u want but lanzar makes some crap stuff

lil reference guide good brands RE audio Kicker hifonics rockford fosgate dd audio jut a few i like .....

[austinpetemo]

i know kicker is a good brand, it just aint cheap. is to 3OOs really gonna make that much punch?

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[l3lhsl3]

and u said your still in highschool

not trying to sound mean but ive only met one kid throughout my 4 years that actually knew what he was talkign about when it came to stereo equipment


dont be fooled by the companies thats lost there products as 1000watts max then when u read the fine print it only puts out 100 watts RMS at 4 ohms its really common and pretty much ever company does that

also with the subs if it says max power 300watts thats not the power u can run to that sub at all time u need to look at the Rated power (Rms) or nominal its always the smaller number

[The Zigman]

Hmm Kids..

I used to run a Yamaha head unit..
A kenwood 600 watt amp to drive the 4 Polk Audio 6x9's in the doors,
and a Sherwood SCP1002 to drive the 2 12" kickers behind the seat..

All in a single cab pick up...

Now i am near deaf.. and it was good...


But as it was said, your system will only sound as good as your cheapest component..

SO what is the head unit?

Go with a single 12" Kicker Sub for now, upgrade later.
One kicker sub is better than 2 lanzar craps...

dont skimp on the Amp... Cheap amps are crap. You get what you pay for.

[l3lhsl3]

read the fine print about the amp that u posted
Bridged, 4 ohms: 200 watts x 2 chan.
4 ohms: 95 watts x 4 chan.

that amp doesnt even put out 300 watts at all but it says 2000watts max that number is irrelevant

[johnlarson66]

i am going to tell you waht you dont want to hear:
dont waste your money. i have been there and done that and in the end all you get is broke.

what you dont want to hear part 2:
if you are going to do iit do it with high quality pieces because it will only sound as good as your cheapest component

part 3:
200 bucks wont get you very far

what you do want to hear:
good luck!

:iagree:

Save up your cash and do it right. Maybe put it on a christmas list. Don't buy Kicker products from Best Buy - they are not the same grade or quality that you can get online or from other places. Be sure to check model numbers and research all you can.

Also, a speaker box is more than just a box holding a speaker, different speakers need different sizes.

One more thing, sounding good and sounding loud are two different things.

[l3lhsl3]

:iagree:

Save up your cash and do it right. Maybe put it on a christmas list. Don't buy Kicker products from Best Buy - they are not the same grade or quality that you can get online or from other places. Be sure to check model numbers and research all you can.

Also, a speaker box is more than just a box holding a speaker, different speakers need different sizes.

One more thing, sounding good and sounding loud are two different things.

lmao explain please i wanna hear this?

but one good point u did make is look up the speakers Cu. Requirements and build your box to that spec

[7620le]

i know this isnt gonna help but i just gotta say it.
JACKHAMMER SUBS FTW :]

[tekonus]

Personally I have never built a system for any car of mine that had a seperate amp just for the mid-range speakers. If you are looking for a system that will wake your neighbors and make everybody around you who ISN'T into systems think you are silly or a jerk... I have no advice.

If you want a system that sounds good you will probably end up spending $200 bucks on a good head unit alone... If you get a decent head unit and speakers for the doors and a decent brand and power amp properly matched with a single 12" sub in the trunk (and take the time to insulate everything properly) you will have an excellent sounding system that you can be proud of for not too much money. If you want to go cheap as possible you are going to turn that 88 taurus into a rattle box. Frankly I laugh at cars that go by me on the road with subs that are either rattling the license plate and sound like crap, or are literally rattling the car appart because it wasn't done right. You want performance for less than 200 bucks? Buy a giant boom box for your back seat and a power inverter :silly:

The cheap-o components you showed in the links are crap, and a waste of money. If you don't recognize the brand its not worth your money (with exceptions on some of the high-end, cash-money stuff).

[tekonus]

i know this isnt gonna help but i just gotta say it.
JACKHAMMER SUBS FTW :]

Someone has been watching too much Pimp My Ride

[austinpetemo]

since i dont have the money to get everything right now i think ill go with some door good door speakers and a amp to power them

[abcdefghi]

The cheap-o components you showed in the links are crap, and a waste of money. If you don't recognize the brand its not worth your money (with exceptions on some of the high-end, cash-money stuff).

:iagree:

Seriously, for $200 its not even really worth it. I hate to say that, but $200 will not get you much, especially if you do not even yet have a head unit and do not know what an RCA cable is.

Cheap stuff is poor quality, both in how its made and how it sounds.

[abcdefghi]

since i dont have the money to get everything right now i think ill go with some door good door speakers and a amp to power them

In that case you could go with these speakers:

http://catalog.ebay.com/Phoenix-Gold-RSD-6CS-Car-Component-System-/69742649?_catref=1&_cpr=249&_dmd=2&_fifpts=1&_pcategid=14936&_pcatid=400&_refkw=phoenix+gold&_trksid=p3286.c0.m504

And then bridge this amplifier to run the speakers:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alpine-V-Power-MRP-F250-Car-Amplifier-4-CH-200W-RMS_W0QQitemZ130339916162QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Am plifiers?hash=item1e58dd4982

But, remember you are going to want to add about $25 or so for an amplifier wiring kit and some RCA's.

[Rallysman]

lmao explain please i wanna hear this?

but one good point u did make is look up the speakers Cu. Requirements and build your box to that spec
Best Buy did that with Alpine so it wouldn't surprise me. They were made with cheaper components and cheaper boards. I have 2 different grade alpine amps...1 from an actual stereo shop and 1 from best buy. I took them apart to see if the claim was true and they do indeed look cheaper. They have smaller transistors and heat sinks and the PCBs look like card board on the cheap one.

[austinpetemo]

those speakers seem weak. is there anything stronger

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[tekonus]

In that case you could go with these speakers:

http://catalog.ebay.com/Phoenix-Gold-RSD-6CS-Car-Component-System-/69742649?_catref=1&_cpr=249&_dmd=2&_fifpts=1&_pcategid=14936&_pcatid=400&_refkw=phoenix+gold&_trksid=p3286.c0.m504

And then bridge this amplifier to run the speakers:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alpine-V-Power-MRP-F250-Car-Amplifier-4-CH-200W-RMS_W0QQitemZ130339916162QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Am plifiers?hash=item1e58dd4982

But, remember you are going to want to add about $25 or so for an amplifier wiring kit and some RCA's.

Those speakers don't look bad... but why bother with that amp? If its only going to put out 50w per speaker why not just use the built in amp in your average 200w head unit. Same output, and probably won't sound much different if you get a decent unit.

[Rallysman]

Don't forget to compare apples to apples. Most head units are rated in max power rather than RMS. An amplifiers output can also be affected by the preamp output voltage on the head unit.

[l3lhsl3]

Those speakers don't look bad... but why bother with that amp? If its only going to put out 50w per speaker why not just use the built in amp in your average 200w head unit. Same output, and probably won't sound much different if you get a decent unit.

people on this fourm crack me up

those pheonix speakers are garbage

and just so u kno when your head unit says 50watts x 4 it doesnt mean it puts out 50 watts rms how many times can i say it READ THE FINE PRINT.

if your gonna buy a headunit by an alpine and call it a day.

i really wish when people gave advice they would actually point someone in the right direction instead of feeding him crap

i wanna see u turn my radio all the way up without the amp and hear how distorted that S*** is then i wanna see u turn my amp on and turn the radio all the way up and hear what a difference it is.

[l3lhsl3]

Don't forget to compare apples to apples. Most head units are rated in max power rather than RMS. An amplifiers output can also be affected by the preamp output voltage on the head unit.

thank u good point buy and alpine 4v preamp out

[Rallysman]

I've always been a fan of alpine and JL. There are a ton of good brands and some that fly low and aren't really noticed very often. I've had awesome luck with MA audio amps in the past. I've never tried their speakers (stuck with JL) but their amps really did surprise me.

When it comes to any system, try to go inexpensive but don't go cheap. The system is only as good as it's worst component.

[tekonus]

people on this fourm crack me up

those pheonix speakers are garbage

and just so u kno when your head unit says 50watts x 4 it doesnt mean it puts out 50 watts rms how many times can i say it READ THE FINE PRINT.

if your gonna buy a headunit by an alpine and call it a day.

i really wish when people gave advice they would actually point someone in the right direction instead of feeding him crap

i wanna see u turn my radio all the way up without the amp and hear how distorted that S*** is then i wanna see u turn my amp on and turn the radio all the way up and hear what a difference it is.


Yes I hear what you are saying. I think it is you who needs to read better, however. This stereo is going in an '88 Taurus and he is trying to spend as little as possible.... If he can get away sounding decent without an amp to his door speakers that saves him money. I have no amp to my 4 door speakers in my car and an 8 yr old 220w (not rms obviously) Blaupunkt deck leftover from my first car with cheap-o 4 way pioneers in the front, and 3 ways in the back that max out at ~120w each (again, not rms). Once I tuned the internal equalizer settings in the head unit to the way I liked them I can crank it up to the point of my ears hurting and it still sounds clear. Again, I'm not one of those guys who drives around with my stereo cranked at max all the time just trying to draw attention. I just prefer something that sounds good at reasonable listening levels.

Also, you can't really knock people for giving half-arsed stereo advice from personal experience on a forum mainly about aquariums... We aren't all professionals and are trying to help the best we can. I'd personally rather half a dozen people who kinda know what they are talking about respond to a question so I can use my judgment to extract useful advice... opposed to one guy who swears he knows whats best be the only one to respond and have to trust it on a whim.

[tekonus]

Don't forget to compare apples to apples. Most head units are rated in max power rather than RMS. An amplifiers output can also be affected by the preamp output voltage on the head unit.

:iagree:

[Reefscape]

Yes I hear what you are saying. I think it is you who needs to read better, however. This stereo is going in an '88 Taurus and he is trying to spend as little as possible.... If he can get away sounding decent without an amp to his door speakers that saves him money. I have no amp to my 4 door speakers in my car and an 8 yr old 220w (not rms obviously) Blaupunkt deck leftover from my first car with cheap-o 4 way pioneers in the front, and 3 ways in the back that max out at ~120w each (again, not rms). Once I tuned the internal equalizer settings in the head unit to the way I liked them I can crank it up to the point of my ears hurting and it still sounds clear. Again, I'm not one of those guys who drives around with my stereo cranked at max all the time just trying to draw attention. I just prefer something that sounds good at reasonable listening levels.

Also, you can't really knock people for giving half-arsed stereo advice from personal experience on a forum mainly about aquariums... We aren't all professionals and are trying to help the best we can. I'd personally rather half a dozen people who kinda know what they are talking about respond to a question so I can use my judgment to extract useful advice... opposed to one guy who swears he knows whats best be the only one to respond and have to trust it on a whim.


:clap:

[l3lhsl3]

Those speakers don't look bad... but why bother with that amp? If its only going to put out 50w per speaker why not just use the built in amp in your average 200w head unit. Same output, and probably won't sound much different if you get a decent unit.

i did read and u said the same output ? the 17 watts rms that your head unit puts out isnt the same as a 50watt rms amplifier.
im sure u can make it sound good but it will never sound better then having an amp hooked up to it.

the kid said he had 200$ why would u buy come crappy speakers for 60$ when you know there not a good brand at all?

who cares if its a 88 Taurus? does it really matter what this is going into?

[l3lhsl3]

I've always been a fan of alpine and JL. There are a ton of good brands and some that fly low and aren't really noticed very often. I've had awesome luck with MA audio amps in the past. I've never tried their speakers (stuck with JL) but their amps really did surprise me.

When it comes to any system, try to go inexpensive but don't go cheap. The system is only as good as it's worst component.


yea i had an old MA audio it was silver put out 1100rms and 1 ohm good stuff cought me by surprise to.


JL audio makes some kicka** stuff man the W7 is a beast the screw holes are under the foam surround and u have to take the ring off its sweet.


im currently in the works of adding on to my system ima be going with 4 kicker CVX 12"s 2 hifonics 1200rms amps

all in a ext cab ranger :p:

[Rallysman]

yea i had an old MA audio it was silver put out 1100rms and 1 ohm good stuff cought me by surprise to.


JL audio makes some kicka** stuff man the W7 is a beast the screw holes are under the foam surround and u have to take the ring off its sweet.


im currently in the works of adding on to my system ima be going with 4 kicker CVX 12"s 2 hifonics 1200rms amps

all in a ext cab ranger :p:
The biggest surprise amp I ever had was a planet audio monoblock. 1200w RMS @ 1ohm and really didn't even get very warm. It took a few battaries, capacitors, and an upgraded alternator to keep up, but it was a solid amp. I think my favorite "bang for the buck" sub is the JL W3V2-D4 (as long as you have a 1 ohm stable amp). Slap one or two of those in a nice sealed enclosure and it's a very nice tight sub that can hit pretty deep.

[tekonus]

who cares if its a 88 Taurus? does it really matter what this is going into?

Older 'clunker' cars with systems are targets for stereo theft. I grew up seeing it every week. Some high school kid would dump $1000 on a stereo for his civic and 2 weeks later it would be stolen out from in front of his house with him finding his car torn apart in the morning. You can't tell me with a straight face that a newer car is just as likely to get broken into for its stereo as an older car. Yes, its done... but not nearly as frequently. Easy targets are just that... easy targets. I'm sure an '88 Taurus has much less security than even say a '00 Taurus (for comparisons sake). Regardless of whatever aftermarket alarm you tap into it.

[l3lhsl3]

The biggest surprise amp I ever had was a planet audio monoblock. 1200w RMS @ 1ohm and really didn't even get very warm. It took a few battaries, capacitors, and an upgraded alternator to keep up, but it was a solid amp. I think my favorite "bang for the buck" sub is the JL W3V2-D4 (as long as you have a 1 ohm stable amp). Slap one or two of those in a nice sealed enclosure and it's a very nice tight sub that can hit pretty deep.

the w3s are a good sub and the planet audio amp ive never heard any of the stuff i just thought it was another no name company but i have seen it forsale tho

[l3lhsl3]

Older 'clunker' cars with systems are targets for stereo theft. I grew up seeing it every week. Some high school kid would dump $1000 on a stereo for his civic and 2 weeks later it would be stolen out from in front of his house with him finding his car torn apart in the morning. You can't tell me with a straight face that a newer car is just as likely to get broken into for its stereo as an older car. Yes, its done... but not nearly as frequently. Easy targets are just that... easy targets. I'm sure an '88 Taurus has much less security than even say a '00 Taurus (for comparisons sake). Regardless of whatever aftermarket alarm you tap into it.

ok ill agree with u on that i just thought u were knocking him for having an 88 Taurus

[7itanium]

you dont want to buy any of that stuff in your first post. it is all off brand garbage and the wattage and sound quality are drastically overrated

I once bought an 1800w amp cheap on ebay.. and we tested it and it acctually put out less wattage then my friends rockford 200w amp lol


save your money and get a decent setup or dont do it at all TBH

[tekonus]

save your money and get a decent setup or dont do it at all TBH

Sad but true. I rolled around for months in my last car ('86 Nissan 300zx) with the stock 80 watt deck with cassette player (premium sound setup from nissan back in the 80's :laugh:) with my tape deck adapter for my ipod. It sounded horrible and I blew out some of those old speakers after a while... but it lasted till I saved the money to get what I wanted for it.

[austinpetemo]

what are some reliable brands?

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[7itanium]

SONY (head units.. I dont like thier speakers though)
ALPINE
KENWOOD
JVC
PIONEER
ROCKFORD FOSGATE
INFINITY
PHEONIX
KICKER
JL AUDIO

there is more but those are all good brands...

[7itanium]

www.crutchfield.com

pretty much anything on this site is good stuff

[austinpetemo]

how about these door speakers?
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11798_Kenwood+KFC-6982ie.html

[l3lhsl3]

how about these door speakers?
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11798_Kenwood+KFC-6982ie.html

those are good pioneer makes some good door speakers to

[l3lhsl3]

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_3575_Kicker+DS68.html

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_12356_Pioneer+TS-G6842R.html

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_5021_Boston+Acoustics+S85.html

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_18210_Rockford+Fosgate+P1683.html


all good choices imo

[austinpetemo]

and how are the pioneer subs?

[l3lhsl3]

and how are the pioneer subs?


there ok depends on the model of course

[austinpetemo]

this one to be specific http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_9235_Pioneer+Premier+TS-W2501D4.html

[l3lhsl3]

this one to be specific http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_9235_Pioneer+Premier+TS-W2501D4.html

pretty good sub as long as u power it the right way

[austinpetemo]

for the door speakers. what amp will i need? i need the cheapest possible that still will make it sound good. and what about for the sub? i will more than likely get the sub at a later date but i want the door speakers first and foremost.

[l3lhsl3]

for the door speakers. what amp will i need? i need the cheapest possible that still will make it sound good. and what about for the sub? i will more than likely get the sub at a later date but i want the door speakers first and foremost.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_8738_Pioneer+GM-3300T.html

if your only getting 2 speakers

[austinpetemo]

what about for 4?

[l3lhsl3]

what about for 4?

on the cheaper side this will suffice http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_20573_Sony+XM-ZR604.html

[austinpetemo]

suffice as in it wont take the speakers to their max potential?

[7itanium]

to be honest if your looking to save money..

just but a head unit that has decent power and power the speakers directly off of that.. and then just get a sub and an amp for the subs

you dont NEED an amp on your door speakers. I dont have one on mine and my system sounds good

but they will certainly sound much louder if you add one

[tekonus]

to be honest if your looking to save money..

just but a head unit that has decent power and power the speakers directly off of that.. and then just get a sub and an amp for the subs

you dont NEED an amp on your door speakers. I dont have one on mine and my system sounds good

but they will certainly sound much louder if you add one

:iagree: This sounds familiar, huh? ;)

[austinpetemo]

yeah. that may have to do if my door speakers even work. i just want really loud door speakers. so i may just buy them and amp them later. idk, it all depends on how much money i can throw together.

[abcdefghi]

but why bother with that amp? If its only going to put out 50w per speaker why not just use the built in amp in your average 200w head unit. Same output, and probably won't sound much different if you get a decent unit.

Oh dear.


people on this fourm crack me up

those pheonix speakers are garbage

Oh dear. Those Phoenix Gold speakers are actually some of the best speakers you can get for a cheap price. Just take a look on any of the caraudio forums to get an idea, they might be cheap, but are actually some very good speakers. Personally I plan to use raw drivers in the set up in my new car, and run them in a 3 way active set up. But for a cheap set of speakers the PG RSD's are a good set.


if your gonna buy a headunit by an alpine and call it a day.

About 5 years ago I would have agreed with you on buying an Alpine head unit and calling it a day. But since Best Buy started selling them the quality and features have gone down hill. To get time alignment on any Alpine head unit now you need an external processor, crossovers are not what they once were, pre-out voltages are typically 2V now instead of 4V (not that is a huge deal if you know how to correctly set the gains on an amplifier). The only Alpine head units I would recommend at the moment would be a CDA-9887, or a W505, both need an external processor to get full tuning options out of them.

[l3lhsl3]

Oh dear.



Oh dear. Those Phoenix Gold speakers are actually some of the best speakers you can get for a cheap price. Just take a look on any of the caraudio forums to get an idea, they might be cheap, but are actually some very good speakers. Personally I plan to use raw drivers in the set up in my new car, and run them in a 3 way active set up. But for a cheap set of speakers the PG RSD's are a good set.



[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE]About 5 years ago I would have agreed with you on buying an Alpine head unit and calling it a day. But since Best Buy started selling them the quality and features have gone down hill. To get time alignment on any Alpine head unit now you need an external processor, crossovers are not what they once were, pre-out voltages are typically 2V now instead of 4V (not that is a huge deal if you know how to correctly set the gains on an amplifier). The only Alpine head units I would recommend at the moment would be a CDA-9887, or a W505, both need an external processor to get full tuning options out of them.






i would agree as my alpine is 4v out ands its a **** nice radio if i may add :)

[coach_z]

http://blog.djkboogie.com/wp-content/uploads/boombox_pc_3-thumb.jpg
just put it on your dash ;)

[abcdefghi]

i would agree as my alpine is 4v out ands its a **** nice radio if i may add :)

Which model do you have? I used to have a 7893 which I loved, almost picked up a 7998 for my last car, but sold the car before putting in a system. I am now debating a W200+H701 or building a carputer.

[l3lhsl3]

Which model do you have? I used to have a 7893 which I loved, almost picked up a 7998 for my last car, but sold the car before putting in a system. I am now debating a W200+H701 or building a carputer.

i have cda 9813 its kinda older but i love it and the 7998 is a nice radio



u should so build a carputer

[tekonus]

u should so build a carputer

I've actually helped a friend do this, as I love to dabble with electronics and have built computers on a fairly regular basis for the last 12 or so years. The hardest part was finding a spot to fit it where it wouldn't get dusty and would get good airflow.

[austinpetemo]

so what should i do. cheap door speakes with no amp, and a good sub? or good door speakers amped with no sub?

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[l3lhsl3]

so what should i do. cheap door speakes with no amp, and a good sub? or good door speakers amped with no sub?

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piece it together man get good stuff for your budget i wouldent skimp

[l3lhsl3]

I've actually helped a friend do this, as I love to dabble with electronics and have built computers on a fairly regular basis for the last 12 or so years. The hardest part was finding a spot to fit it where it wouldn't get dusty and would get good airflow.

where did u end up putting it?

[austinpetemo]

piece it together man get good stuff for your budget i wouldent skimp
im gonna have all good stuff eventually. but what should i go for at the moment. insane door speakers, or insane bass. because i cant afford both at the moment. but idk how the current speakers are in the vehichle.

[calivivarium1]

Personally, I would go for door speakers before I got insane subs. Plus, I can tell you many a story of friends and acquaintances who paid big money for a system that really hits only to complain of headaches and vow to never run it above 25% again. Sounds like a waste of money to me....

[austinpetemo]

ok. after doing the math. i really cant afford them and still be able to get a head unit. these seem to have a little similar stats. and i suppose the amp needed for these would be a little cheaper as well. http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_16485_Sony+XS-GTX6930.html

[tekonus]

where did u end up putting it?

It was a mess of a job, but we managed to fit it in the glove box. It took up the whole glove box, and I cut a vent in the glove box for airflow to the pc, but it worked.

[Pavo71]

dont be fooled by the companies thats lost there products as 1000watts max then when u read the fine print it only puts out 100 watts RMS at 4 ohms its really common and pretty much ever company does that

They derive that high wattage number by feeding in a sine wave, bridging at 2 ohms and upping the input bus rail voltage until the output transistors smoke in about 1 second at continuous power level.



also with the subs if it says max power 300watts thats not the power u can run to that sub at all time u need to look at the Rated power (Rms) or nominal its always the smaller number

On this one the high number is by feeding a super clean powered sign wave and once again when the voice coil melts down in about 1 second of continuous power level.



It survived charlie!

Alright get another one and we up the power some more until we melt one of these things.

My 2 X 600 W Rms Crown Macrotech amp is a 2U rack unit run on an inverter, pumping a pair of Kliptch 18" sealed cabinets with 15" passive radiators (15" speakers with no voice coil attached) this totally flattens out the response curve and seriously pounds your chest from 10 - 400Hz.

[abcdefghi]

ok. after doing the math. i really cant afford them and still be able to get a head unit. these seem to have a little similar stats. and i suppose the amp needed for these would be a little cheaper as well. http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_16485_Sony+XS-GTX6930.html

To be honest, those speakers are most likely garbage, most of the newer Sony stuff is not very good.

If you are struggling to get together money for a head unit, I really would not even bother with speakers yet. Spend the money you would have spent on speakers and an amp now on getting a better head unit, then save up again for a while to get some speakers and an amp, then eventually save up for a sub and amp.

Buying a bunch of cheap stuff, simply to have a system is going to be a waste of money and disappointing when it sounds like garbage. If, however all you are looking for is some loud bass to impress friends with in school, by all means go ahead and get simply a sub and amp, use a line out converter to tap a signal from your OEM head unit, and call it a day. But it will sound crap, just be loud.


im gonna have all good stuff eventually. but what should i go for at the moment. insane door speakers, or insane bass. because i cant afford both at the moment. but idk how the current speakers are in the vehichle.

Again, if you want to have all good stuff, don't bother spending your money on cheap stuff now. Even if you re-sell it you are losing money. Save more for a good head unit now, get the speakers/amps later.


I've actually helped a friend do this, as I love to dabble with electronics and have built computers on a fairly regular basis for the last 12 or so years. The hardest part was finding a spot to fit it where it wouldn't get dusty and would get good airflow.

I already have a spot picked out to install it in my car (and a build list of most of the parts I would need). I have an A4 Avant, and in the trunk there are large cubby holes on either side, currently the left one houses the OEM satellite radio module, and the right side contains the OEM Bose Amp/Sub.

If I do decide to install the carputer, I am going to install the computer in the right side of the trunk, and then fiberglass a 10" sub in on the left side. I should also hopefully have enough space to install something like a PDX.5 amplifier as well in one of the areas on either side. I had hoped to use a 10" touch screen up front, but the opening is short by about 1/2" so will have to drop down to an 8" instead.

[l3lhsl3]

They derive that high wattage number by feeding in a sine wave, bridging at 2 ohms and upping the input bus rail voltage until the output transistors smoke in about 1 second at continuous power level.



On this one the high number is by feeding a super clean powered sign wave and once again when the voice coil melts down in about 1 second of continuous power level.



It survived charlie!

Alright get another one and we up the power some more until we melt one of these things.

My 2 X 600 W Rms Crown Macrotech amp is a 2U rack unit run on an inverter, pumping a pair of Kliptch 18" sealed cabinets with 15" passive radiators (15" speakers with no voice coil attached) this totally flattens out the response curve and seriously pounds your chest from 10 - 400Hz.

sounds like a kickass home theater

[l3lhsl3]

To be honest, those speakers are most likely garbage, most of the newer Sony stuff is not very good.

If you are struggling to get together money for a head unit, I really would not even bother with speakers yet. Spend the money you would have spent on speakers and an amp now on getting a better head unit, then save up again for a while to get some speakers and an amp, then eventually save up for a sub and amp.

Buying a bunch of cheap stuff, simply to have a system is going to be a waste of money and disappointing when it sounds like garbage. If, however all you are looking for is some loud bass to impress friends with in school, by all means go ahead and get simply a sub and amp, use a line out converter to tap a signal from your OEM head unit, and call it a day. But it will sound crap, just be loud.



Again, if you want to have all good stuff, don't bother spending your money on cheap stuff now. Even if you re-sell it you are losing money. Save more for a good head unit now, get the speakers/amps later.



I already have a spot picked out to install it in my car (and a build list of most of the parts I would need). I have an A4 Avant, and in the trunk there are large cubby holes on either side, currently the left one houses the OEM satellite radio module, and the right side contains the OEM Bose Amp/Sub.

If I do decide to install the carputer, I am going to install the computer in the right side of the trunk, and then fiberglass a 10" sub in on the left side. I should also hopefully have enough space to install something like a PDX.5 amplifier as well in one of the areas on either side. I had hoped to use a 10" touch screen up front, but the opening is short by about 1/2" so will have to drop down to an 8" instead.


line output converters SUCKKKKKKK

[abcdefghi]

line output converters SUCKKKKKKK

I know, but if the OP is really wanting to do things on the cheap, and just wants to impress people with loud bass its a cheap way to go without having to worry about an aftermarket head unit.

[Vicious_Fish]

S•O•U•N•D•S•T•R•E•A•M

[austinpetemo]

right now i just want a head unit. and some good speaker to go with it. maybe an amp too. ill worry about subs later. so is the sony stuff crap or is it pretty good?

[abcdefghi]

right now i just want a head unit. and some good speaker to go with it. maybe an amp too. ill worry about subs later. so is the sony stuff crap or is it pretty good?

Crap. See if you can find a Nakamichi head unit ;)

Have a look on ebay, or caraudio.com or diymobileaudio.com, a lot of users those forums have to have the latest and greatest, so sell old units that are barely used.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alpine-CDA-9833-Car-CD-MP3-Player_W0QQitemZ380172223724QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar _Audio_In_Dash_Receivers?hash=item588407c4ec

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alpine-CDA-7998-Car-CD-MP3-Player_W0QQitemZ150383924855QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar _Audio_In_Dash_Receivers?hash=item2303949677

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2009-PIONEER-PREMIER-DEH-P710BT-CD-MP3-USB-I-POD-BT_W0QQitemZ180426114440QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Aud io_In_Dash_Receivers?hash=item2a023c0588

http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-DEH-P880PRS_W0QQitemZ330353278494QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCa r_Audio_In_Dash_Receivers?hash=item4cea96fe1e

There are some units to get you started, let me know what your budget is for the headunit if you want it narrowed down some. What size speakers does your Taurus take? If you are not sure, go to www.crutchfield.com and look there. They are a great website to buy from as well, if you want to buy new, as they throw in installation gear free.

[l3lhsl3]

Crap. See if you can find a Nakamichi head unit ;)

Have a look on ebay, or caraudio.com or diymobileaudio.com, a lot of users those forums have to have the latest and greatest, so sell old units that are barely used.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alpine-CDA-9833-Car-CD-MP3-Player_W0QQitemZ380172223724QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar _Audio_In_Dash_Receivers?hash=item588407c4ec

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alpine-CDA-7998-Car-CD-MP3-Player_W0QQitemZ150383924855QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar _Audio_In_Dash_Receivers?hash=item2303949677

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2009-PIONEER-PREMIER-DEH-P710BT-CD-MP3-USB-I-POD-BT_W0QQitemZ180426114440QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Aud io_In_Dash_Receivers?hash=item2a023c0588

http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-DEH-P880PRS_W0QQitemZ330353278494QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCa r_Audio_In_Dash_Receivers?hash=item4cea96fe1e

There are some units to get you started, let me know what your budget is for the headunit if you want it narrowed down some. What size speakers does your Taurus take? If you are not sure, go to www.crutchfield.com (http://www.crutchfield.com) and look there. They are a great website to buy from as well, if you want to buy new, as they throw in installation gear free.

lol there all over 200$ but really nice radios

[Pavo71]

sounds like a kickass home theater

Actually it was part of my stage sound rig until I put it in my suburban.

[austinpetemo]

[QUOTE=l3lhsl3;2160378]if your working with 200$

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/3638298/vpcsid/0/SFV/30046 2 of those 90 $

im looking at buying these from the link you gave me compared to the website that i look at. itll save me like $20. do they have free shipping on kick products? because on sonic electronix the same speakers cost $20 but have free shipping.

[l3lhsl3]

[QUOTE=l3lhsl3;2160378]if your working with 200$

http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/3638298/vpcsid/0/SFV/30046 2 of those 90 $

im looking at buying these from the link you gave me compared to the website that i look at. itll save me like $20. do they have free shipping on kick products? because on sonic electronix the same speakers cost $20 but have free shipping.

i believe the shipping is like 18 bucks

[austinpetemo]

ok. so really it wont make a difference since it all ballances out.

[austinpetemo]

oh i took one of the old door speakers out of the car. in the back the door speakers are 5x7s. they are real weak. i hooked it up to my radio with + - conections on the back and it bounced pretty good. but distorts and sounds like crap. the cone seems to be made of clothy stuff. it looks like the front speakers are a few inch circulars. oh and the 5 x 7s were in baskets. should i remove the baskets and replace them with 6 x 9 sealed boxes?

[l3lhsl3]

oh i took one of the old door speakers out of the car. in the back the door speakers are 5x7s. they are real weak. i hooked it up to my radio with + - conections on the back and it bounced pretty good. but distorts and sounds like crap. the cone seems to be made of clothy stuff. it looks like the front speakers are a few inch circulars. oh and the 5 x 7s were in baskets. should i remove the baskets and replace them with 6 x 9 sealed boxes?

no take your old speakers out and put new 5x7's in

5x7 and 6x8s are the same some 6x8 have universal mounting

[Reframer]

Before I read this I thought you were asking about what kind of tank to put in your car...bummer :)

[austinpetemo]

i was gonna PM you this, but my computer wont let me. if i bridge the amp than i will have a 400w 1 channel. can i run 2 kicker CVRs on that parellel?