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Gold Fin
12-09-2009, 3:00 AM
Hello,

I had tropical fish many many years ago, using an under gravel filter when they were pretty new on the market, and prior to that, the hang on the back filter powered by an air pump and stuffed with charcoal and fiberglass. (I think that probably dates me pretty accurately.) With grandkids here during the early summer months, I ended up with two small feeder goldfish. One thing lead to another, and I ended up with two smaller temporary tanks until my dear hubby finishes the stand for a new 80 gallon tank. All because of those two small feeder goldfish.

When I bought the big tank, I bought a Filstar XP3 filter for it. I put it on the smaller tank the goldfish are in, along with running the small HOB filter that had come with that tank. I had no problems getting it cycling, completely by mistake. I purchased another filter... same type... and started it on another small tank, that I needed to use as an isolation tank. I had read all the information I could find on doing this, but, until I stumbled upon this site, I did not have complete enough information to know what the process really entailed. I really appreciate finding the information here. This gave me more patience, and, helped me understand what I was doing, and why. It helped me to keep doing those water changes that I was getting so very sick of doing. So... a huge Thank You to all who have gone before me. I will say I was getting pretty frustrated with the nitrites and ammonia levels that kept creeping up, and I was truly wondering if I had done something wrong. I was running water tests two and three times a day, and changing water at least every other day, but usually more often. There was one evening that I did an almost complete water change. :o The only water I didn't change was the water in the filter, and I did another 50% the following day. It was getting really old packing water too and from the kitchen sink. Looking back, after reading posts, there were a lot of things I could have done to speed this up. DUH... live and learn!

TAAA DAAA.... I think I am now at the successful point. I've had no ammonia and no nitrites for three days in a row. :thumbsup: I'm still going to test for ammonia and nitrites every day for another week or so to be sure.

Setting up the big tank will be easy now. All I will have to do is put in water and add a filter that is already cycling. I am planning on cleaning the filter at least three days before moving it. Should it be longer? Am I thinking on the right path? :feedback:

What are some of the ways of dealing with nitrates? I realize plants should help... will water changes and vacuuming once a week basically handle that problem?

Thanks so very very much for all that you fish masters do... our fish love yah for it. Yes, I have added more goldies... fancy ones. The feeder fish are keeping the isolation tank cycling until they can move outdoors this next spring or find another suitable home.

Gold Fin

Rbishop
12-09-2009, 4:01 AM
Welcome to AC! Glad things are progressing for you.

Just be careful how well you "clean" that filter when moving it. I would just rinse out the filter pads in old tank water to remove some of the junk it has collected. Do not do a wipe everything clean as the media will have your needed bacteria on it.

Also, don't let the filter go to long without a food supply. Frankly, I would move the filter over the night before you get the fish.

Many folks run their nitrates at 20-40 ppm and use that as an indicator for a water change. Or some, like me, just do them weekly regardless of what level the nitrates are. The water change does more than just lower nitrates, it re-supplies other important items the tank needs.

Sounds like you need a Python after all that bucket hauling!

Gold Fin
12-09-2009, 7:15 PM
A Python, eh? I'll look at them. I almost bought a sink faucet type vacuum that vacuums and refills a few days ago, but I want to be sure to get one that is user friendly, and that would reach the tank from the bathroom. Ended up getting the cheap one that you shake, figuring if I was going to spend a bunch, I wanted to get the "right" one. I don't mind putting the one I just bought with the 10 gallon to sell.

I already have fish in one tank, so they will get transfered also, along with their "current" water. I figure I will empty the current used fish water into the big tank, and, add more h2o from the faucet. We are on a well, so we have no chlorine. (BTW, I already rinse all my filters and filter parts in used tank water.) I'm thinking of cleaning the filter about a week before I move the fish. I plan on moving all the water out of the 20 g. tank into the 80, and 1/2 of the isolation tank water will go in there too. The rest will be put into the 20 g. to use as an isolation tank, along with two big fat feeder goldies to keep the filter working. I can make the move on an "add clean water" day. What do people think of doing the move this way? Are there any concerns I should be aware of?

It really is nice to have both of the XP3 filters cycling. I didn't even think of moving a filter pad out of the one that was cycling into the one that is newer, and was not cycling yet. That sure would have shortened up the time it took. If I had done that, wouldn't it have made the older filter/tank perform a mini cycle?

I have been doing my water changes once a week, for the most part. I did use water out of the established tank in the newly set up tank to try to help it along. I think it helped, but I can't say it helped a whole bunch.

I am keeping a close eye on the current tanks as the 20 is a bit crowded... but they are not aggressive towards eachother. Everyone seems to be fat and sassy, so they must be getting enough to eat too. I've been feeding three small meals a day. The filter is keeping the ammonia and nitrites at "0" so I can't complain. Nitrates have stayed down too... with all the water coming and going. <laughing>

Gold Fin