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FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 9:22 PM
Hey guyyz! I'm starting up a 3 gallon Picotope planted vivarium for either green tree frogs or PDF's, what I need is answers!
Which is better for a first timer, PDF's or GTF's? Remember, they are going in a 3 gallon vivarium.
It will be shallow water, heavyily planted, heated, misted, and covered. Here are the questions:
What substrate should I use for both water and land?
Painted or 3D background?
Wood or not?
Can you only be poisoned by a PDF through a cut or open wound?
How bad is a PDF's poison?
Can it be cured?
How many PDF's can I keep in a 3 gallon?
How many GTF's can I keep in a 3 gallon?
How many Fire-Bellied Newts can I keep in a 3 gallon?
How can I over a PicoTope and still have acess?
Should I even be attempting this?
Should I even be posting here, or should I be directed to another site?


Thanks for all your help! I have a lot of time to plan this, as I am broke and Christmas is coming. This is mostly just a fantasy plan, but I have the tank empty and waiting and I want something new to try. :)

cam191919
12-22-2009, 9:54 PM
3 gallon tank is too small for pdfs or treefrogs, get a 20 gallon tank

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 9:55 PM
I can't afford a new tank, should I just make it an aquarium and worry about stocking later?

cam191919
12-22-2009, 9:58 PM
if anything go with dwarf shrimp or a pico reef, otherwise its kinda worthless

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 9:59 PM
I already have an 8G SW, I think I just put it in storage for now.

PaulJ69
12-22-2009, 10:34 PM
What substrate should I use for both water and land? LECA or eggcrate
Painted or 3D background? 3D
Wood or not? Wood
Can you only be poisoned by a PDF through a cut or open wound? no
How bad is a PDF's poison? They are only poisonous in the wild by the types of food they eat.
Can it be cured? ...
How many PDF's can I keep in a 3 gallon? 0
How many GTF's can I keep in a 3 gallon? 0
How many Fire-Bellied Newts can I keep in a 3 gallon? 0
How can I over a PicoTope and still have acess? ?
Should I even be attempting this? no
Should I even be posting here, or should I be directed to another site?

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 10:35 PM
Thanks guys! My decision is made and all the stuff that came with the PicoTope is in a box and stored neatly away. May try and sell it later in life.

odinthejd
12-22-2009, 10:37 PM
Hey Ben if you wanna let me us the tank for red cherries shrimp you can lol.

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 10:37 PM
Haha, Idk if I'm letting it go just yet.

odinthejd
12-22-2009, 10:38 PM
Well not to keep just to use and get a mini farm going. Then once I accomplish that move the farm into another tank or something

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 10:39 PM
I think I'll be selling it though.

odinthejd
12-22-2009, 10:41 PM
How much will you be selling it for?

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 10:41 PM
$45.

odinthejd
12-22-2009, 10:42 PM
What would come with it??

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 10:42 PM
Light and filter.

odinthejd
12-22-2009, 10:43 PM
got a link to it? like where you bought

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 10:44 PM
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=15493

odinthejd
12-22-2009, 10:47 PM
Is it pretty clean looking??? No scratches. Well I'm going to the bank tomorrow to deposit a check. How about $40 cause that wonderful power head that owned Otto lol

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 10:48 PM
IT'S OTIS! ;)
It's in perfect condition, and I'm giving you that powerhead back because I have absolutely no use for it.

odinthejd
12-22-2009, 10:50 PM
Oh darn I thought I could save $5 bucks lol. Didn't you put BB in it? Would it fine to make FW than???

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 10:51 PM
It's already been used for freshwater.
Idk if I wanna sell it tho. I'll decide later.

odinthejd
12-22-2009, 10:53 PM
Okay. I will give you $40 if you want. Guess I need to find a heater now also.

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 10:54 PM
$75 if you want the heater included.

odinthejd
12-22-2009, 10:57 PM
IDK I am just gonna get a mega tank move my dads 20 to my 30 and take my dads 20

FindingBlemo
12-22-2009, 10:57 PM
mmk, I'll find someone who wants it.