wuld a spiny ell eat my kuhli loaches

[kYle223]

ime thinking of getting a peacock or zig zag spiny eel wich loooooooove worms.

however i have 3 kuhlis wich look like worms.

wuld my kuhlis turn into a snack if i where to put a spiny eel in with them.

i dont want to find out the hard way.

[toddnbecka]

If the eel is large enough, quite likely it will eat the kuhlis.

[BioHazard]

I would say yes.

[Lupin]

They definitely will. Mastacembelus tend to be rather predatory, something you do not want with your docile kuhlis.

[BioHazard]

What size tank do you have? What other fish are in the tank? Eels get VERY big, and need large tanks.

[kYle223]

its a 46 gallon but i am staying away frome the big guys zig zag only get 6 inches and peacock stay pretty small too
guess ile move my kuhlis to another tank and get more cories to make up for the cleaning efforts or maybe a yoyo loach or two.

ime just worried about the wormy look that the kuhlis have going because thats the spinys main source of food.

[abarilot]

I had kuhlis with a peacock eel with no problems. I'd think you'd be fine as long as the eel wasnt huge nor were the kulhis tiny

[Stargazer53]

.....I personally, would not risk it. I don't think eels and kuhlis go very well together. I know it's tempting to keep both but I would save yourself the possible loss and keep one or the other. :)

[MotionInSilver]

I know of a zig zag thats 12'' easily and have seen plenty of peacocks at 10'' so I wouldn't believe the 6'' thing though. I'm starting to notice theres way more and more fish outgrowing their predicted size for the aquariums as people are now more duplicating the good conditions that they would get in the wild.

I just looked up the zig zag and it says they get up to 16'' in the wild- go figure.

[froglover007]

Spotted spinies grow to 12 inches and EAT KHULIS IN THE WILD. Similarly to angels, you might get away with it if you keep them together when young, but I wouldnt try.

[kYle223]

ime probably going to move my kuhlis to another tank and get a spiny eel

ime thinking of setting up a 10 gallon oddball tank with some hatchetfish
& glass fish.
wuld my kuhlis do allright in that setup?
or wuld they need a bigger tank ?
i allready have the 10 gallon with a cycled filter.
but i saw a good deal for a 20 gallon for 20$

[BioHazard]

I wouldn't put kuhlis in anything less than a 20. Go for a 20 long if you can.

[BioHazard]

Also, thank you for taking our advice! So often, new members don;t want to hear what we have to say, and do what they want to anyway, leading to tragedy. It's always nice to see people who are responsible, and care about the welfare of their pets. :)

[7itanium]

whoever told you that zigzags only get 6 inches is direly misinformed

I have personally seen one over a foot long.. that goes for any member of the spiny eel family

a 46g would probably be ok.. but prepare to upgrade if you get a larger speciment.. also they are horrible escape artists.. I had one that insisted in sleeping in my HoB filter everynight.. and sometimes I would even find him on the floor

and yes.. the kuhlis will be lunch in no time

[Cerianthus]

not all M. Sp grows to same length. spiney eel in hobbyist's tank very rarely will grow more than 8-10" as I never had one that reached 12" even in 180 G tank..
On the other hand, fire/tire track eels are totally different stories.

As far as compatibility with kuhli loach, never kept them together thus dont know exactly what the consequences will be when kept together. However, I would expect higher chances of interactions in small tank than large tank. This, of course, does'nt means kuhli's will be eaten by Spiney as their mouth is pretty small. Depends on the sizes of both fish.

It is your call.

DO drop the water level or secure all possible openings. Finding fish in the filter is pretty common as I have seen many fish originally from fast flowing water streams tend to do so.

[kYle223]

i have a pretty tight fit on my lid
but i was thinkng of just lining my lid with aquarium sillicone for a realy tight fit will that contain a peacock eel?

[7itanium]

yes but I think its gonna create a lot of condensation and therefor possibly mold.. you need some air to water contact for oxygen transfer as well

[kYle223]

its not like i have any gaps in my lid right now
and the water isnt touching the lid
i personally think the only thing i have to worry about is by some miracle one of the fish opens the glass lid that weighs more than they do.

what do you think i shuld do?
am i suposed to have a hole in the lid somewhere?