Endler mystery

looks like the albino version or "blonde"

no clue honestly, LOL I don't really know much about endler genetics.

Yes it is possible, just a case of Simple genetics. Any fish can be shown as a normal (endler in this case) thats their phenotype, in other words, what they look like. For example, "N" represents your normal (dominant) color, while "n" is a (recessive) albino. So you fish can be NN- pure normal or homozygous normal. But, they can have the recessive gene (heterozygous) for the albino trait which looks like Nn. These heterozygous fish look like a normal endler with normal color, but are hiding the albino gene. Or, in a pure strain of albinos, the fish would be nn, as they are only able to produce recessive albinos- therefore, they are homozygous albinos. Now, All you need is a momma thats Het. for albino (meaning they look normal but are hiding the albino gene) and a dad thats het. for albino, though both look normal, and those to hets make a recessive baby! Since albino is recessive, you need two copies, one from each parent, to make an albino baby which is nn. So yes, it is possible.

trevor

petluvr said:

I guess you have a point or fact as it may be It just kinda surprised me when I see a few of these in the tank.

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Hahahaha, thank you. Well, I am pretty good with genetics in general.

I think anyone would be suprised. but i have all the scientific stuff to back ya up
:hi:

Trevor

Trevor -- I was told that the true class N (wild form) of Endlers did not have the blonde/albino gene.

Petluvr -- I didn't want to be nosy but the moment I read your thread and saw your picture - I immediately had a feeling you had received these Endlers from someone on this site and so I checked your market feedback and was able to confirm my inkling of thought. The person who you might of purchased these Endlers from is a very pleasant hobbyist and whom I have purchased plants from in the past. I too, was going to purchase Endlers from her but through various PMings and conversations, I wanted to be sure what exactly was causing these "blondes" to arise in her stock as from my knowledge, blondes should not be popping up in the genes from pure class N Endlers. I was seeking only pure strains so after doing some investigating and researching for her, I was able to contact her original source of her Endlers and was able to conclude and informed her that her Endlers were not pure but Endlers that were housed with wild and blondes. Because the source of her Endlers had housed the blondes with the wild Endlers, "contamination" of the genes had already been done. I think all Endlers are beautiful so there's nothing to panic or be upset about. I only ask that should you sell your Endlers, please do not sell them as 100% wild and do inform any future buyers that there are hybrids within the bloodlines.

If you have any doubts in the future, I would bookmark Adrian Hernandez's website on Endlers. Armando Pou and Adrian Hernandez are the two prominent figures responsible for all the possible varieties of wild Endlers available throughout the world. Although similar to guppies, Endlers have been given their own species name (Poecilia wingei) and as of yet, no albino type "true wild type" Endlers have yet to be found or imported into the hobby. I purchased Endlers from three different sources on this site and accidentally "contaminated" the group and I had to start from scratch. Most people don't care about mixing Poecilia wingei and Poecilia reticulata but I believe in the importance of maintaining the species separately; especially since the natural habitat of Poecilia wingei will cease to exist in the future because of human pollutation and destruction.