Posting here because I am a total newbie to fishless cycling so figured this was the place. I've only ever cycled with fish-in, so...
Okay, had a small tank (just 5.5 gallons) that I had to set up and move 2 diffusa snails into. I used a bit of media from a cycled tank (though that tank has only been cycled for about 3 months) and put the snails right in, testing twice a day just in case. Params were fine for the first however many days, then ammonia started rising slightly to about .25. I did small water changes (like 15% or so) and added some Prime. When it climbed to .50 and nitrite started showing up at .25, the snails were stressing, so I removed them and decided to cycle fishless. (I'm assuming that there just weren't enough bacteria on the media I put in to do much but speed the cycle along rather than avoid it altogether...)
Problem is, I cannot find ammonia without surfactants ANYwhere. Just not around here at all. So. I've been putting ground up fish flakes in (read that it's not a great idea to put them in whole and let them get fungus-y, ditto for using a cocktail shrimp) and also siphoning some of the snail poop from the cycled tank and dumping that in. The ammonia stayed at nearly 1.0 for about 2 days, then relatively quickly dropped to 0. No matter how much crap I put into this tank now, it stays at 0 or just between 0 and 0.25. Can I make the assumption here that the bacteria is established and is processing the ammonia and that's why I'm no longer getting readings?
Now, as expected, the nitrite has risen substantially. This morning it was 2.0. (Last night it was 1.0.) I didn't test my nitrates today yet, but a day or two ago they were 10.
So - a bunch of questions:
1) Can I assume that allllll the stuff I've dumped into this tank (you ought to see the bottom) is breaking down and feeding the ammonia-eating bacteria?
2) Can I assume that the ammonia-eating bacteria are doing their job processing the ammonia and that's why I have little to no reading on the test kit?
3) Can I assume that since my nitrites have risen fast and high, the ammonia-eating bacteria MUST be doing their job and be established now (nitrites are a by-product of the ammonia-eating bacteria, yes?) ?
4) Do I have to keep adding ground up flake food and snail poop to the tank? How often? I'm worried about starving the ammonia-eating bacteria somehow.
5) Once my nitrites drop to 0 and I have measurable nitrAtes, do I assume the cycle is done and the tank is safe for inhabitants?
6) How big of a water change do I do at that point?
7) I assume I gravel vac all the icky stuff (flake food, snail poop) up at that point?
Sorry for so many questions ... this is actually more complicated than I thought!
Thanks!
Okay, had a small tank (just 5.5 gallons) that I had to set up and move 2 diffusa snails into. I used a bit of media from a cycled tank (though that tank has only been cycled for about 3 months) and put the snails right in, testing twice a day just in case. Params were fine for the first however many days, then ammonia started rising slightly to about .25. I did small water changes (like 15% or so) and added some Prime. When it climbed to .50 and nitrite started showing up at .25, the snails were stressing, so I removed them and decided to cycle fishless. (I'm assuming that there just weren't enough bacteria on the media I put in to do much but speed the cycle along rather than avoid it altogether...)
Problem is, I cannot find ammonia without surfactants ANYwhere. Just not around here at all. So. I've been putting ground up fish flakes in (read that it's not a great idea to put them in whole and let them get fungus-y, ditto for using a cocktail shrimp) and also siphoning some of the snail poop from the cycled tank and dumping that in. The ammonia stayed at nearly 1.0 for about 2 days, then relatively quickly dropped to 0. No matter how much crap I put into this tank now, it stays at 0 or just between 0 and 0.25. Can I make the assumption here that the bacteria is established and is processing the ammonia and that's why I'm no longer getting readings?
Now, as expected, the nitrite has risen substantially. This morning it was 2.0. (Last night it was 1.0.) I didn't test my nitrates today yet, but a day or two ago they were 10.
So - a bunch of questions:
1) Can I assume that allllll the stuff I've dumped into this tank (you ought to see the bottom) is breaking down and feeding the ammonia-eating bacteria?
2) Can I assume that the ammonia-eating bacteria are doing their job processing the ammonia and that's why I have little to no reading on the test kit?
3) Can I assume that since my nitrites have risen fast and high, the ammonia-eating bacteria MUST be doing their job and be established now (nitrites are a by-product of the ammonia-eating bacteria, yes?) ?
4) Do I have to keep adding ground up flake food and snail poop to the tank? How often? I'm worried about starving the ammonia-eating bacteria somehow.
5) Once my nitrites drop to 0 and I have measurable nitrAtes, do I assume the cycle is done and the tank is safe for inhabitants?
6) How big of a water change do I do at that point?
7) I assume I gravel vac all the icky stuff (flake food, snail poop) up at that point?
Sorry for so many questions ... this is actually more complicated than I thought!
Thanks!