Wanting to try my hand at SW!

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I've kept FW fish for a while now, and thinking about trying out SW. I've been reading up on lots of book from the library and trying to decide where to start. I can tell I'm gonna have lots of questions!

My first question is 2 part.

1. Should I get a BioCube, or convert one of my tanks I alreay have? (36G Bow or 20G High)

2. If I do get the Biocube, which size works out the best?

Thanks for the help!
 
the bigger the better, if you do convert your other tanks you will have to buy alot of equipment whereas if you buy the biocube youll have alot of the stuff you already need. my first tank was a 14 gal biocube so im all for those set ups, but id say go with the 29 becuase youll want the space later on anyways.

Could always get a Solana as well.. just as nice and then all youd need is lights!!

let us know if you have more about questions.. this is like the testing stage where you give us your ideas and well either shoot you down to all hell or give ya a thumbs up...!
 
I've only been doing sw for a couple of months. There is so much info available that it'll most likely give you a headache or three. Eventually, everything will come together and it will start making sense. Good luck!
 
Folks always say start big with SW......that can be a very expensive experiment. When I started in salt...I started small, with a 20long. I figured I'd give it a try and if it didn't work out then I wouldn't be out much. As it was the live rock alone for that little tank cost me almost $100. I used a couple of AC 70 HOBs that I had laying around and set one up as a small refugium...with live rock and cheato.

I didn't have a clue about what to do but I did read a lot about it before I dove in....so good for you for taking that step first. I recommend "The New Marine Aquarium" by Michael Paletta. Lots of good info in there and easy to read.....lots of pics....lol.

I started simple and basic to see what would happen. After the tank cycled I added a cleanup crew and by the second month I got my first pair of clowns and a friend gave me some soft coral. That was back in Oct 2006....now I have a 50 reef, 29reef and a 20 frag tank. My advice would be to start out slow...take your time and do a lot of reading up on it. Have fun and hope it works out for you !

Log your progress here too...with pics of course ! You'll get lots of help I'm sure as you go along.
 
Are the lights in the BioCube worth anything?

If I'm gonna have to replace the lights then would I just be better off buying ones to fit one of the existing tanks?
 
well, the light may or may not be good enough. Are u planning on corals? if not then you can just keep the normal lights. if u are planning coral then get better lights.

Whats your stock plan?
 
I would like to try some corals, thats why I was wondering about the lights. I saw that BioCube make a model with better lighting, but I didn't know if it would be cheaper just to upgrade one of my tanks.

As far as stocking goes, I was thinking: a clownfish, watchman goby, and a firefish. (I love the coral beauty angel, but it will be on my want list when I get a bigger tank!)
 
So Many Questions...

So I went to 4 pet shops yesterday and I'm feeling overwhelmed... so many options, and it just seems like all but one place (this was the most expensive by far, of course) may not know what they were talking about! I think they just don't care as long as they sell something!

1 -I'm no closer to deciding between the tank choices.

2 -I'm completely confused about the lighting differences between compact fluorescents and t5 lighting. Am I understanding that the t5's are lower watt yet higher output?

3- Live rock. The best looking rock that I saw was beautiful, but also $11.99/lb, Some moldy brown looking for about $5/lb.

4 - Base Rock, way cheaper...and some really nice structures. Can this be mixed with the nicer rock to save some money? If so much then to what ratio?
 
So I went to 4 pet shops yesterday and I'm feeling overwhelmed... so many options, and it just seems like all but one place (this was the most expensive by far, of course) may not know what they were talking about! I think they just don't care as long as they sell something!

Unfortunately this is the case with some LFS's. Once you do a little reasearch on your own and ask some questions here you will get a better idea of the shops you want to do business with.

1 -I'm no closer to deciding between the tank choices.

Understood. I can tell you that I started with an all-in-one (AIO) tank and I loved the simplicity of it and am glad I started there. I now have a "component" tank that I like a lot as well and have a lot more flexibility. Go as big as your space and wallet will allow. Yes the tank will be more stable but just like in FW you always want something bigger. If you are serious about keeping a healthy tank you can do a small tank.

Of course the benefit of a component system is being able to select exactly what you want for everything from lighting to flow to filtration. They are also a little easier to add a sump to (especially if you get a drilled tank) if you go that route.

Bottom line is that people have a lot of success with both setups. Go with what you like.

2 -I'm completely confused about the lighting differences between compact fluorescents and t5 lighting. Am I understanding that the t5's are lower watt yet higher output?

The biocubes are outfitted with PC lighting which will do fine for most/all soft corals (mushrooms, etc.) and a lot of LPS (large polyp stoney) corals but will not suffice for most/all SPS (small poly stoney) corals. Take a look at some of the SPS corals (acropora, montipora, etc.) and decide if you are going to want to keep these. If not, I think the biocube will suit you fine. This is just my opinion but if I was not going to get a cube, I would not buy a PC light fixture and stick with T5's, halides or LEDs (or a combo fixture). PC lighting is fairly limited when it comes to color and spectrum selection. You can usually only choose between a daylight bulb, an actinic (blue) bulb or a 50/50 bulb which provides one daylight and one actinic. In a T5 fixture you have a lot more choices especially if you opt for a 4 or 6 bulb fixture. I am fairly certain that you can buy custom hood for cubes from places like nanotuners.com that have been retrofitted with halides, T5's or LEDs (maybe even a combo of these) that would open up your coral choices. I suppose you could also find a cube without a hood and get your own light such as a pendant style or clip on halide such as a K-2 Viper or if your handy you could build your own fixture.

3- Live rock. The best looking rock that I saw was beautiful, but also $11.99/lb, Some moldy brown looking for about $5/lb.

4 - Base Rock, way cheaper...and some really nice structures. Can this be mixed with the nicer rock to save some money? If so much then to what ratio?

Buy the best rock you can buy BUT you can buy a few pieces of the quality stuff and use it to bring the base rock (assume you mean dry rock) to life to save you some money. 50/50 split will be fine and you could even go with a little less live rock. It wil take a little longer to cycle this way but it will save some $$$. When buying LR ask about how long it has been curing and look for things like coraline algae growth and critters crawling all over it. This won't tell you everything about the rock but its a step in the right direction.
 
So I went to 4 pet shops yesterday and I'm feeling overwhelmed... so many options, and it just seems like all but one place (this was the most expensive by far, of course) may not know what they were talking about! I think they just don't care as long as they sell something!

1 -I'm no closer to deciding between the tank choices.

2 -I'm completely confused about the lighting differences between compact fluorescents and t5 lighting. Am I understanding that the t5's are lower watt yet higher output?

3- Live rock. The best looking rock that I saw was beautiful, but also $11.99/lb, Some moldy brown looking for about $5/lb.

Go with some of both. Put the better rock on top of the cheaper rock. Good luck.

4 - Base Rock, way cheaper...and some really nice structures. Can this be mixed with the nicer rock to save some money? If so much then to what ratio?
 
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