Need urgent guidance. Calling Bob , Deb, Pink, and all other bn gurus

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ESOXLUCIOUSS

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Ok so here is my dilemma..

Look at the list just posted by a local lfs.. 4 days ago.. just saw it now


Aequidens rivulatus
Apistogramma agassizii "Fire Red"
Apistogramma borellii "Blue"
Apistogramma cacatuoides "Orange"
Apistogramma hongsloi
Apistogramma macmasteri
Apistogramma njsseni
Apistogramma viejita "Gold"
Parachromis dovii
Parachromis managuense
Amphilophus labiatus
Amphilophus salvini
Thorichthys meeki
Hypsophrys nicaraguensis
Rocio octofasciata
Cryptoheros sajica
Amatitliania nigrofasciatus
Blue ram
Gold ram
Aulonocara jacobfreibergi
Aulonocara "Ruben Red"
Aulonocara stuartgranti
Cynotiliapia afra
Sciaenochromis ahli
Nimbochromis livingstoni
Pundamilia nyererei
Labidochromis hongi "Redtop"
Pseudochromis acei
Pseudochromis crabro
Pseudochromis daktari
Pseudochromis demasoni
Pseudochromis saulosi "Red coral"
Pseudochromis tropheops
Pseudochromis zebra "Red/Blue"
Mixed malawi
Hemichromis lifalli
Pelvichromis pulcher "Super Red"
Cyphotilapia frontosa
Lamprologus leleupi "Orange"
Mixed lamprologus
Tropheus duboisi "Bemba"
Tropheus duboisi "Maswa"
Tropheus moori "Ikola"
Peru "Altum" angel
Koi angel
Redback/Manacapuru angel
Super red angel
Pidgeon panda discus
Yellow pidgeon discus
Red melon discus
Royal blue discus
Red spotted discus
Red spotted green discus
Sun red turquoise discus
Silvertip tetra
Rummynose tetra
Cardinal tetra
Rosy tetra
Ornate tetra (Bentosi)
Red phantom tetra
Beckfords pencilfish
Emperor tetra
Blue emperor tetra
Black emperor tetra
Congo tetra
Red bellied piranha
Aphyosemion filamentosum
Aphyosemion marmoratum
Epiplatys dageti "Red"
Nothobranchius palmquisti "Red"
Clown barb
Tiger barb
Green tiger barb
Clown loach
Whitecloud mountain minnow
Boesmani rainbowfish
Super red dwarf gourami-males
Super red paradisefish
Black paradisefish-concolor
Ancistrus sp.
Ancistrus sp. longfin
Ancistrus sp. Gold
Ancistrus sp. Albino
Ancistrus sp. Lemon L144
Ancistrus sp. orange longfin
Bronze catfish
Albino catfish
Peppered catfish
Albino peppered catfish
Corydoras panda
Loricara filamentosa
Loricara sp. Red L10a
Sturisoma panamense
Sturisoma aureum
Otocinclus affinis L
Cumberland slider-turtle-babies
Gold frog
Sterlet
Black moor
Calico oranda
Mixed fantail
Red oranda

This is an additions list, lots of other fish in stock- 2ft redtail cats, 2.5ft tiger shovelnose catfish (Ex display) XL oscars, XL severums etc...for those who have not been up we have 350 tanks of coldwater, trops, marine & inverts. etc 25 vats of koi & goldfish plus 1000L wild red bellied piranha display (who are breeding again!!)and our new 2000L reef tank is slow taking shape...
PM for further details!!!
Cheers
Drew


My god did u see what i saw..Its now 4.09am

My fav fish at the moment are as u guys now bns. There have only been a few albinos about..No longfins, orange lemons...
Guys what am i going to do,
I have three spare tanks, but really at 8 euro each( thats the standard price.. plus 4 of each to make sure i get males and females, 5 diffent kinds,,,,wow... 160 euro..
Thats 20 fish to grow out....
Wow.....heads spinning, the post was up 4 days now...Hope they have them left.
What would u go for.
Longfins are really what i want so they prob will they breed together maybe yes no..

will i buy6 longfins and 2 of each of the others, which longfin, oh my head hurts


Guys what would u do

Please.. Pretty please
 
I'd recommend getting a trio of the longfins if they're sexable, or a group of 5-6 if not. The longfins breed just as easily as the regular fins, but sell for a better price. A breeding trio (1m/2f) will certainly fill your 3 spare tanks with fry as you grow them out. The "orange longfin" are probably calico, the reds from Germany haven't been bred as longfins yet.
If you can afford to get a group of the L-10a they'll mix well enough with the BN. The fry need a little more attention than BN fry (separate tank, microworms or decapped brine shrimp eggs) but once they're past the first month they're just as hardy. Both BN and L10a fry fast-growing little buggers, unlike the L-144 "lemon". They'll reach spawning size in about 8-9 months rather than a couple years.
 
toddnbecka said:
I'd recommend getting a trio of the longfins if they're sexable, or a group of 5-6 if not. The longfins breed just as easily as the regular fins, but sell for a better price. A breeding trio (1m/2f) will certainly fill your 3 spare tanks with fry as you grow them out. The "orange longfin" are probably calico, the reds from Germany haven't been bred as longfins yet.

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You have to be careful of labels put on ancistrus. Here in the states I've seen the L144 Lemon ancustrus label on a common brown bristlenose...go figure that out! The L144's are a yellow ancistrus with blue/black eyes. I don't think there really is such a thing as a lemon or a gold or an orange. So you need to go look at the fish to see what he really has for sale. I would go with long fins as well and the most uncommon ancistrus of the bunch. Go to the store with your camera and take some pictures of them for us!

......... Both BN and L10a fry fast-growing little buggers, unlike the L-144 "lemon". They'll reach spawning size in about 8-9 months rather than a couple years.
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Not sure what you're saying here Todd.....yes, true L144's are the slowest growing ancistrus on earth! But are you also saying they won't reach spawning size for a couple of years? If so, that is not true.
 
I meant that buying juvies, then raising their resulting fry to spawning/sexable size would take much longer with L-144's than the regular BN. The one I had seemed like it barely grew, while the BN were twice its size in a few months.
 
Yup, they are a bit of a challenge and more delicate when compared to breeding other ancistrus.
 
Hi guys , i got three of each as they were really small, looked like they were about 2 weeks old. no kidding, i have them now are will grow them out.. They got 600 ancistrus in but they were not in great condition and they were constantly fighting with each other taking bites, lots of the albinos were red marked.
I felt sorry for the fish, and they were dear fish for the size..
Will see how they develop
 
Given clean water and good food they should be fine. Are they really that small? I don't move my fry to other tanks until they're at least 1" (2.5cm), certainly don't sell them any smaller. Even in the 30L breeding tank there's no conflict among the fry. I usually have well over 100 small ones in there at any given time, working their way to the 1" mark...
 
I've never had conflict with fry of any size or adults for that matter. That is really strange. Hopefully it's not the signs of illness in fish which I'm thinking it might be. Post pics when you can,.
 
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