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PunkMartyr
12-23-2002, 8:00 PM
I was curious if anyone has used one of these to play with their fish. I suppose there could be some dangers associated with them, and i'm not saying any RC submarine would be safe for the aquarium but I would bet some of them are.
JamisonBWolsh
12-23-2002, 8:31 PM
Imagine the fish thinking... what the H*LL is that chasing us???? Do you feel all that VIBRATION??? Lets get out of here.. oh no..we are surrounded by Glass in this Tank! We Beg our keepers..spare us this evil!!!!!!
Can you say STRESSFULL???
carpguy
12-23-2002, 9:38 PM
PunkMartyr guy? Where ya been? I saw those candle bowl things while I was out Christmas shopping the other day and I wondered if you ever did that Atlantis thing. And I was in a hobby shop today looking for some DIY plumbing supplies (no luck) and saw a remote control sub. You can't help but think it, but, um… no.
slipknottin
12-23-2002, 11:19 PM
there are submarines made just for aquariums. I forgot the name of the brand, but they do exist
beviking
12-24-2002, 8:48 AM
They already exist?? My buddy was over last week and we were talking about how much $$$ we could rack in if we could invent remote subs that could "shoot" the fish. Put them in the drinking establishments...tell me that wouldn't be a hit!!
carpguy
12-24-2002, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by beviking
They already exist??
But you didn't know about it.
The money is in the marketing…
Put them in the drinking establishments… tell me that wouldn't be a hit!!
Sick, twisted, funny, (lucrative?) :cool:
beviking
12-24-2002, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by carpguy
Sick, twisted, funny, (lucrative?) :cool:
Much that is lucrative IS sick, twisted, and funny!:cool:
JamisonBWolsh
12-24-2002, 10:56 AM
your mind is Flawed.
PunkMartyr
12-24-2002, 12:11 PM
I'm going to have to defend my idea of the submarine because I still think its a good idea.
1. I really want it so I can play with my blue crayfish "Luna". I can see myself making a little tether on the back and her grabbing it and riding around the aquarium.
2. Maybe I would attach food to the sub, or really I see myself getting another RC toy and breaking it apart to build an arm that can move or pick things up. That would be new hotness :)
3. As far as scaring the fish goes, they'd probably become accustomed to the sub. I'm not sure if they would even be smart enough to know its a toy and not a fish.
4. RC things are fun. If it was a failure I could find another use for the sub.
5. My amazon puffer is pretty mean so I don't mind chasing him around. Yes I know that sounds very ignorant.
I'm really a crustacean lover, thats what I most see the use of the sub for. I used to catch crayfish in a creek as a kid and its a memory that makes aquarium keeping appealing to me.
Hi Carpguy
I have been busy with school and some things and haven't gotten around to it yet. However I have just set up a new 29 gallon in my basement to do some things with. I am between a terrarium or an atlantis project.
I have the picture you drew in my mailbox but it won't open for some technical reason, I'm going to forward it to my girlfriend's computer and check it out again.
The materials have been lying in my room since we last discussed it. I have some silicone gel, tubing, suction cups, glass bowl.
I think we agreed that a rectangular casserole dish looking thing would do best. Also I have been using a drill to do audio projects in my car so I'm pretty handy with that, but I think we also agreed that would be a bad idea to drill a hole at the top for the exit tube. I'm trying to remember the important thing your picture told me. I know it had to do with the way the air would leave the atlantis globe. Like if you use no tube you'll get big burps of air every other second, as the air stone pumps air into the atlantis then some is pumped out.
Now I remember, the tube has to be setup and angled just right so water doesn't go up it, but air goes out. Did we agree the tube should be angled slightly down and be at the bottom of the globe? I have 10 more days off from school so I do have the time to do some work with this now.
The next step is for me to get a rectangular clear glass enclosure I believe. I wouldn't mind doing a test with the round globe first. Something occurs to me. Since the air pressure makes the globe want to go up with some force, and the middle of the glass is the weakest, do you think it could break it or crack it eventually? Might be some consideration for weighing it down. With a rectangular enclosure putting rocks on top would be much more easier.
I'm gonna be at walmart today I'll take a look around for some more materials, and also I may go to a specialty shop for the enclosure. For the substrate would you pick sand or gravel?
carpguy
12-24-2002, 12:50 PM
Personally I'm partial to sand, but its just a preference.
The bowl they carry at Illuminations had these two advantages: it had the 1 inch+ lip for the "beach" and it was compressed vertically, so it would have less displacement than a true bowl. Plus its a lot thinner (easier to drill, or more prone to shatter?) Should be on sale by Thursday. A casserole would have no beach unless you built some sort of platform for the middle.
I just mounted a bunch of driftwood onto 12" square floor tiles, a few bucks each at Home Depot. I placed them on top of eggcrate (optional). If you mount onto 2 of them you'd have most of your substrate and whatever rocks acting as an anchor.
My own theory on the air supply was that the vent would need to be below the beach but above the entrance. The water level should stabilize at the level of the vent. Check valve on the supply line, does no good on the vent. I think in the diagram we had a little piece of airline going from the vent to above the beach.
I don't know if the constantly refreshed air will help keep the humidity down or if you'll wind up with terrarium-style condensation all over the bowl.
PunkMartyr
12-24-2002, 2:51 PM
Wow, what you said about using the tiles to make the substrate weigh the bowl down, that makes so much sense. That makes me feel a lot better about this because once I cover keeping the enclosure down then I can move on to aeration. Also with this method I connect the enclosure to tiles and not the glass of the aquarium.
I'm going to do some shopping over the next couple of days, if I make any progress i'll let you know. I'm looking on superpages.com for the Illuminations business but no luck so far, i'm sure i can find some house hold items stores to visit though.
Me and my brother are having an iron chef competition. He made chicken fajitas with honey mustard and perogies yesterday. Today i'm making Bleu cheese burgers and potato soup.
I'll be going to home depot over the next couple of days to pick up tiles as well. I have a big tube of silicone aquarium sealant, I dunno if thats the right thing for gluing objects to the tiles. In my head right now I am thinking tubing from the glass object runs to the tiles to secure it. Rocks on top of the glass object help keep pressure off the tiles assuming they aren't enough by themselves to do the job.
If you have any more advice please give it
PunkMartyr
12-24-2002, 6:55 PM
So what do you guys think of the Nikko Sea Tiger?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1924952480
That one slipknot mentioned is a yellow submarine, I forget who makes it, can't find a link for it right now. The Sea Tiger is pretty small though.
Punkmartyn
have you ever considered putting the bowl in without vents and such and using plants to create oxygen? I once did a project in Bio where we put some lizards and bugs into a bug bottle planted with plants collected from around the school and sealed the bottle. Everything lived for the two months that we had them in there untill we released them. Just something to consider.
JP
PunkMartyr
12-24-2002, 8:20 PM
Thats actually very interesting. I may add some plants to the land portion of the atlantis. I'm surprised some plants can create enough oxygen to sustain small animals. I don't know that much about it though.
Serrateeth_2002
12-25-2002, 6:18 AM
Isn't a Giant Hand already frightening,much less a submarine,my flowerhorns like to play with the floating fake fish,thinking it was real.
Strgazr
12-25-2002, 6:52 PM
Here's a link to a little yellow submarine.
http://www.sigmaautomotive.com/TechieMon/miniuboot.html
Someone on another board or email list was talking about it last week and I saved it. There are also spyshops with waterproof tiny cameras that I want to try to mount on the sub for a real "fisheye view"!
PunkMartyr
12-25-2002, 7:23 PM
Originally posted by Strgazr
Here's a link to a little yellow submarine.
http://www.sigmaautomotive.com/TechieMon/miniuboot.html
Someone on another board or email list was talking about it last week and I saved it. There are also spyshops with waterproof tiny cameras that I want to try to mount on the sub for a real "fisheye view"!
See this guy knows whats up
I personally like the nikko sea shark a little better but its nice how the yellow sub is very aquarium safe, dunno with the nikko.
The picture on the yellow sub website makes me wish I still had my goldfish. I'm sure they would be friendly to a sub
Big Kid
12-26-2002, 12:20 AM
does anyone watch the discovery channel? They had a remote control fish on there in an aquarium. Called it a pike not sure what they are using it for but i think it had a camera in it. Looked pretty cool bit big for a small aquarium but still cool
tim watson
12-26-2002, 12:44 AM
check thiis out! robotic fish!
http://www.sigmaautomotive.com/TechieMon/aquaroid.html
125gJoe
12-26-2002, 1:59 AM
Originally posted by tim watson
check thiis out! robotic fish!
http://www.sigmaautomotive.com/TechieMon/aquaroid.html NOT! Not even! Any time I see the "M3" logo - by the way - why does it show up only on this product picture - 'added' to the original picture??? Any time I see M3, I know what I went through trying to buy online from them... Never again. :mad:
tim watson
12-26-2002, 2:01 AM
very fake and takky and bad.. i know:D