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TheFishBoss97
11-20-2011, 12:25 PM
Hey guys,

SO my 20G 100 watt aqueon heater just failed. Its not heating or anything, I turned all the dials while it was in my hand and plugged in, and the result was nothing as it didn't even warm my hand a tiny bit. It was past the 1 year warranty:( It came with a 20G kit from petco....................So I am having a hard time choosing heaters.............

I am buying a new one, and since prices between 150 watt-300 watt only differ by $2-$5

I am thinking of going bigger as in the future, I may just run only larger tanks with dividers for cost efficiency...........

Heaters I currently Have

-Ebo Jager 250 Watt(on my 72G)
-Fluval M 200 Watt(on my 29G)
-Aqueon 100 Watt(on my 10G)

And thats it:(

So, I have 2X 10Gs sitting around, and getting another 29G soon..........so a question.


These are my options:

Buy a 300 watt Fluval M
and then.........

300 Watt Fluval M on my 72G
250 Watt Ebo Jager on my 29G
200 Watt Fluval M on my 20G
100 Watt Aqueon on my 10G

OR

Buy another 200 Watt Fluval M
and then.......

250 Watt Ebo Jager on my 72G
200 Watt Fluval M on my 29G
200 Watt Fluval M on my 20G
100 Watt Aqueon on my 10G

OR

Buy a 150 Watt Fluval M
and then........

250 Watt Ebo Jager on my 72G
200 Watt Fluval M on my 29G
150 Watt Fluval M on my 20G
100 Watt Aqueon on my 10G



I am leaning towards the first one............bc it is getting quite cold here in SJ, CA.............and I feel that 250 watts is very underrated for that size tank......isn't the rule 4-5 watts per gallon and if its the colder time of year, It would be 5 watts per gallon meaning it should be 5X72 which is 360 watts.......but i have 250 watts, it doesn't get super cold, so 300 watts would be better, correct?

and on the lower end, 4X72 is 288 watts which also rounds up to 300 watts.......so im assumign i should have 300 watts minimum?

the tank was started in april so i haven't experienced cold with the heater yet.........soon though as in 1-2 weeks it'll be quite cold

thanks!other options are welcome

btw, the fluval M 150 watt is the CHEAPEST OUT OF ALL OF THEM:)

http://www.amazon.com/Fluval-M-200-Watt-Submersible-Heater/dp/B0027VQ0WM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1321812854&sr=8-2

TheFishBoss97
11-20-2011, 12:26 PM
also, i will be ordering within the next 12 hours.............;) thanks!:)
free shipping so that doesn't matter............

sora1600
11-20-2011, 12:29 PM
I'm not sure but I've always liked visi therms and they have worked for 3+ years. Is price a problem? Best to get the more expensive ones so they last longer if price isn't a factor.

TheFishBoss97
11-20-2011, 12:35 PM
Price isn't an issue...........let me search them up

they are cheaper than the fluval ones..........so i think i'll stick with fluvals........i had seen those earlier, but i think fluvals look nicer(although looks don't matter), but the fluvals are a bit more expensive, and seem to perform better i guess? idk.

but for sure, NO fluval Es........as 1/2 of the reviews have major issues with the heater

as it doesn't function while the colorful lights and other decorative stuff(unnecessary) function

TL1000RSquid
11-20-2011, 2:02 PM
I like the Visitherms and Finnex's, I have a dead Aqueon too, they're suppose to have a lifetime warranty though, haven't gotten around to trying to get a replacment though.

TheFishBoss97
11-20-2011, 3:33 PM
oh, okay? I didn't know as it came in a kit

it said 1 year warranty in the circle thing on the box.........but maybe that was hte min. for all of them?

idk, i shall see;) but even then, i'll get the replacemnt, but by the time it gets here, the fish will be dead
i have prime shipping on amazon so it should get here by wed.

TheFishBoss97
11-20-2011, 3:36 PM
any other input from u guys?

im ordering by 8pm today;)

TL1000RSquid
11-20-2011, 4:08 PM
From Aqueon's website : All Aqueon heaters are guaranteed for life. Probably 1 year for filter and light.

Seems like the Aqueon's have a high failure rate though I won't buy anymore I will get my replacment and keep it as a spare. The Fluval's seem decent with good reviews probably what I would go with out of your choices. I have inline on my 90g, finnex on my 40b and 29g salt, visitherm on my 29, aqueon on my 10. Also a couple older Eheim's in the closet. Finnex is great dont have to stick your hand in the tank to change temp's, visitherm is easy to read vs say the aqueon heaters I have to take out of the tank to read the adjustments. Finnex is kind of pricey though I think they're a little more then the Fluval's.

TheFishBoss97
11-20-2011, 5:45 PM
awesome;)
so i shall get a replacement:D

but:( I kind of disassembled the whole thing, oh well;)
i will try to put it back together.........and keep it as a back up or start up a 10G again;)

TheFishBoss97
11-20-2011, 9:19 PM
noone else?:(
well, im ordering at 9 which is when my mom gets home with credit card;)

any other input?

Narwhal72
11-21-2011, 8:01 AM
50, 100, and 150 watt Aqueon heaters have a thermal fuse inside them. If they overheat (such as running dry) the fuse burns out and the heater is dead. The light will come on but it will no longer heat. Sounds like this is what is happening here. Did you forget to unplug the heater during a water change anytime recently? That would do it.

I would suggest using an Aqueon Pro heater which is made of unbreakable plastic and aluminum and comes with a thermal switch (the switch will reset when the heater cools down after an overheat). Or you could just go back to the Aqueon glass heater and remember to unplug it before doing a water change.

Andy

GraphicGr8s
11-21-2011, 11:41 AM
Personally I use 2 heaters in about every tank at half the wattage. At least if one fails the other will keep the temperature reasonable. If they stick closed it can't overheat the tank.

TheFishBoss97
11-21-2011, 6:24 PM
50, 100, and 150 watt Aqueon heaters have a thermal fuse inside them. If they overheat (such as running dry) the fuse burns out and the heater is dead. The light will come on but it will no longer heat. Sounds like this is what is happening here. Did you forget to unplug the heater during a water change anytime recently? That would do it.

I would suggest using an Aqueon Pro heater which is made of unbreakable plastic and aluminum and comes with a thermal switch (the switch will reset when the heater cools down after an overheat). Or you could just go back to the Aqueon glass heater and remember to unplug it before doing a water change.

Andy

i don't think so........and even if i did.......my WCs are a bit diff. on small tanks like 10Gs

So i empty 1/2 of it, but while i do so, i fill a 5G bucket with water.........and the heater is FULLY submerged at least 5" below water line........so with those odds, 1 out of 10 times it would be out of water for 30 seconds........this is what i do for all my tanks.......under 29Gs.............

i will take a look at the aqueon pro

i haven't ordered yet bc i forgot;)
tonight or in a few hours

i think maybe that is what happened^ but im not sure

i have done this with my 100 watt aqueon and nothing has ever happened

TheFishBoss97
11-21-2011, 6:25 PM
Personally I use 2 heaters in about every tank at half the wattage. At least if one fails the other will keep the temperature reasonable. If they stick closed it can't overheat the tank.

yeah, good idea;) I will keep the replacement from aqueon as a backup

TheFishBoss97
11-21-2011, 6:29 PM
i think im going with this
http://www.amazon.com/EHEIM-Jager-Aquarium-Thermostat-Heater/dp/B003I5UC0W/ref=sr_1_1?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1321921675&sr=1-1

i'll put it on my 72G and then switch the others to the next smallest tank;)
that way all my tanks will be set for cold nights;)

i am getting a replacement soon

TheFishBoss97
11-21-2011, 9:53 PM
k, ordered the heater;) thanks.

Narwhal72
11-22-2011, 8:18 AM
"i don't think so........and even if i did.......my WCs are a bit diff. on small tanks like 10Gs

So i empty 1/2 of it, but while i do so, i fill a 5G bucket with water.........and the heater is FULLY submerged at least 5" below water line........so with those odds, 1 out of 10 times it would be out of water for 30 seconds........this is what i do for all my tanks.......under 29Gs............."

In any case a blown thermal fuse is the reason your heater is not working. No other cause can achieve the same result.

It's a good idea to unplug any aquarium heater BEFORE you start draining the tank. That's just good safety advice.

Andy