View Full Version : Is there a tropic fish similar to a rainbow trout?
homerr
04-18-2004, 4:39 PM
I love rainbow trout (They taste great! :D )
Does anyone know if there is a tropical equivalent to the trout?
One that won't eat the rest of my communities?
Thanks,
H.
ben72227
04-18-2004, 8:51 PM
you mean something that looks like a rainbow trout?
wcmm look like them but only get like 1.5"
Okay I'll bite .... WCMM?? Where's my decoder ring?
:-)
white cloud mountain minnows
OrionGirl
04-19-2004, 8:52 AM
Maybe it's just me, but other than shape, white cloads don't look a thing like rainbow trout.
I can't think of anything that has a similar color pattern to a rainbow. Maybe a cichlid of some sort---I'm not familiar with them.
snakeskinner
04-19-2004, 10:31 AM
you could buy some little rubber fishing lures that look just like rainbow trout, don't know of anything that looks just like them alive though. Kyle
greenterrorrr
04-19-2004, 12:46 PM
Just get a large tank, something over 200 gallons should do the trick, a water chiller (or a cold location like a basement), and get the real thing. I think a trout tank with rocks and driftwood would be neat. I would personally get brook trout they stay smaller and look prettier IMO.
Originally posted by Dean
white cloud mountain minnows
Ah, Thank You. I'll get a handle on these shortforms soon.
:)
some_guy
04-20-2004, 9:31 PM
Do NOT get a trout as they need constent SPRING WATER, in other words you have to have a stream that is constantly moving and is not river water, the water will sometimes be completely clear, i have gotten 14 trout this year and i know a lot about them, if you have ever seen that mountain fresh type of bottled water, if that is really taken from mountains ( wich it isnt ) then that is the water that you would need.
OrionGirl
04-21-2004, 8:28 AM
Originally posted by some_guy
Do NOT get a trout as they need constent SPRING WATER, in other words you have to have a stream that is constantly moving and is not river water, the water will sometimes be completely clear, i have gotten 14 trout this year and i know a lot about them, if you have ever seen that mountain fresh type of bottled water, if that is really taken from mountains ( wich it isnt ) then that is the water that you would need.
Huh? Sorry, while I won't advocate keeping trout in a tank, it has more to do with size and temp--trout are adaptable to just about all water chemistries. They occupy almost every riverine system in the world, and have thrived in many waters they were introduced to. Eastern US native trout, including brook trout, have been introduced to the West from their native waters, and thrive, outcompeting the native cutthroat trout. Brown trout were introduced from Asia and Europe, and thrive in US waters, with a huge range in pH, hardness, turbidity, etc. Cutthroat trout are mountain fish, but most other salmonids do not originate from mountain spring waters, and I'm not aware of any that must have 'spring water' to survive. Sorry.
My lake always has a few trout in it each year. Hardly any current, no deeper than 10 feet in most places.
vaheelsfan
04-21-2004, 9:03 AM
OrionGirl is right. Trout don't need spring water, but they do need cold clean water, as they have high oxygen requirements. Trout live in lakes, and that water isn't constantly moving. Well, I suppose it is, but not as much as a stream/river. It is very possible to keep trout in an aquarium, just harder than keeping tropical fish, as long as the water didn't get over 65°F and you had a strong filtration system. I would say a 250 gallon tank would be the minimum, although if you kept brook trout you could probably do a 175 since I don't think they get much longer than 20 inches, even in ideal conditions in the wild. Rainbow and brown trout seem to have a wider tolerance for water conditions though. I'm not sure how powerful of a chiller you would need to keep a tank that cool, but it would probably be rather expensive. Oh yeah, it would also be against the law to keep trout as pets in some states.
greenterrorrr
04-21-2004, 12:23 PM
Trout do not need constant spring water. They need cold clean water. Like others have said they can be found in ponds, lakes, and rivers. There was a really great article in aquarium fish magazine a couple of years ago about keeping brook trout in an aquarium. Beautiful fish. I was actually looking into having a trout tank in my basement, still may. It may be illegal in some states but you can also talk to local fish hatcheries to get trout from them. A trout tank would be unique and interesting.
you could always try brook trout. they dont grow as fast, and dont require much for water conditions. i have seen them in some pretty ugly water.
greenterrorrr
04-21-2004, 3:32 PM
someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think brook trout have a higher water condition requirement than do rainbow or brown trout. You are right Caz they don't get as large as the other species do though.
OrionGirl
04-21-2004, 3:52 PM
Brook and other trout need the same clean water--but this mostly relates to nitrogen, not to turbidity. Most fish will be fine and dandy in water that is very cloudy and impossible to see through, as long as the nitrogen levels are good. Of course, low levels of ammonia for an aquarium are much, much higher than acceptable levels for a natural system--ammonia testing in local rivers and lake comes back for ppb, compared to the ppm that most hobby kits detect.
johnnyxxl
04-21-2004, 5:59 PM
brown trout though larger I believe inhabit much wider range of areas I have caught them in streams, rivers, lakes and seen them in ponds. They live in some fairly poluted areas as well so must be fairly tough.
some_guy
04-21-2004, 6:00 PM
<Edited. Please refrain from using words that our profanity filter would filter out.> -Richer
brook trout are easier to keep i can assure you that. not saying they are easy, just easier then a rainbow. brook trout live in some pretty nasty conditions.
and, not all trout live in streams....
vaheelsfan
04-22-2004, 12:32 AM
It may be illegal in some states but you can also talk to local fish hatcheries to get trout from them
In Virginia possession of trout for any reason other than consumption is illegal. The only reason you can possess live trout from a hatchery is if they are being used to stock a lake/stream, consumption, or for bait.
brook trout live in some pretty nasty conditions.
I would have to disagree that brook trout can live in poor water conditions. Maybe hatchery trout get dumped in some nasty streams, but wild trout need clean water to breed in because the eggs need a lot of oxygen to survive. I would, however, agree that they can live in some pretty tough conditions. Some of the streams with wild trout in them practically dry up in the summer time around here, but somehow the trout make it through.
brown trout though larger I believe inhabit much wider range of areas I have caught them in streams, rivers, lakes and seen them in ponds. They live in some fairly poluted areas as well so must be fairly tough
This is again only somewhat true. Large brown trout often live in lower reaches of streams where other trout couldn't. They basically lie in the deepest part of the pool during the day and then come out at night when it cools off a little to eat minnows or whatever other meaty fare they can find. This is why dusk/the period right after dusk is supposedly the best time to catch large browns. Even though trout CAN live in some water that some people wouldn't suspect, it's not recommended to keep them at the edge of their limits, because this basically is the same as saying, "A goldfish can live in a one gallon bowl, so why not keep one there."
some_guy - Basically, you need to chill out. I live in the mountains. I fish for trout every chance I get, and I have since I was able to hold a fishing pole. I don't know what it's like where you fish, but I do know that trout can live in very cramped conditions. Brook trout, which are the only the only real native trout in Virginia live in streams that you can step across with one step. There are also mountain lakes here where NO water goes in in the summer and NO water comes out, but trout still live in them. Just because you happen to fish for trout doesn't mean you know everything about them. 14 fish all year? :o I've caught more than that in one day.
johnnyxxl
04-22-2004, 7:14 AM
I do a fair bit of fly fishing have since I moved to NC mountains. Grew up in NY state upstate. Cortland NY the famed Cortland fishing pole and reel plant was only an hour from where I lived. I fished on lake ontario which is one nasty lake. I never knew this growing up then swimming and eating fish from it. For years I have gone back and every year I catch Lake trout huge things 4 pounds and up. This is in a lake full of all sorts of chemicals and metals so badly there is a list saying how much of what you can eat each year and not get poisoning. I catch brook trout only near head waters or real cold clear places, Rainbows tend near warmer areas than brook trout, Browns in even more parts of the streams and small rivers. I leave the brook trout and keep the others so I only tend to keep about 10 fish I catch as I like catching the brook trout more. The trout I would think would not be the sort to keep in a aquarium.
But that is not the topic at hand this persons question was trout like I have yet to ascertain does he want a fish that has markings like a trout as in maybe a minnow family fish that looks like a miniature trout? or a fish that has coloring like a trout maybe like a um the name escapes me but I think I have seen a small black lined rainbow fish has simialar but not the same coloring as a rainbow trout..
some_guy
04-22-2004, 7:57 PM
a lake has moving water even if ya dont know it, its changing all the time. i have caught 14 trout in a 3 day period and 2 times trout fishing as they have only stocked our trout streams 1 time this year and EVERYBODY AND THEIR DOG GOES THERE, i never said they could not live in a tank, hell, they could live in a 10g but would be VERY unhappy, even in a 55. i know they can live in extreme conditions, i go up to saxon harbor on supirior were my parents used to live and catch A LOT of trout there within a 1/2 hour time period.
OrionGirl
04-23-2004, 8:15 AM
some_guy--your responses are out of line. Please review the TOS information poseted in GCC. I'm locking this thread to prevent it from becoming a flame war.