48x20x24 / 300L stocking?

[csmaster]

I am getting the Juwel Rio 300Litre tank(48x20x24"(i think 60UK gal about 70US?)), and am looking for some ideas for stocking, it will be planted with black gravel and some bogwood/mopani wood It will have the juwel filter that comes with it and/or an external fluval 303 (so plenty of filteration )

Thanks

[NJ Devils Fan]

That is bigger then 70 gallons. I don't remember the website that had the conversions, but it's probably 100 gallons. Personally, I would add an Emperor 400 to that filter that came with the tank, and a Rena Filstar XP3 filter.

[brackishwannbe]

One of my tanks is 48" x 18" x 24" and its 75G.

[NJ Devils Fan]

It is 100 gallons, I just found the formula. It's L x W x H x .0043 which comes out to a little over 99 gallons.

[Bantam]

what sort of fish are you into? if it was me i'd have a largeish catfish and a couple of the larger predatory cichlids. or how about some bala sharks or some of the larger barbs? you could always get zillions of neons...

[brackishwannbe]

NJ,
That formula makes my tank 89.1G, guess I got one over on the LFS :D Makes up for the high prices on he other stuff.

[NJ Devils Fan]

LOL

The formula isn't good though for bow front tanks. I have no idea what the formula would look like.

[csmaster]

ok, I think my tank is more like 65 UK gallon, 79 US (really dont think its 100!)

Yes I like catfish, I would like alot of smaller fish to make it more active and colourfull, dont think i will go cichlids as there are so few avalible around here :( )

And suggestions welcome

[NJ Devils Fan]

Dude, thats the formula, you can't exactly argue with a proven formula.

[csmaster]

ok, never mind the volume ;)

How does this fish list seem, is there any fish u think i shouldnt add or that arent peacefull? and also are all these fish ok with plants? :

Clown Pleco x 1
Ameca Splendens Livebearer x 2
Endler's Livebearer x 4
Clown Loaches x 3
Glowlight Dwarf Gourami x 2
Dwarf Pencilfish x 4
Platy - Neon Tuxedo x 2
Platy- Yellow Arrow x2
Otocinclus Affinis x 2
Bristlenose Pleco x 1
Harlaquin Rasbora x 8
Albino Corrys x 4
Neon Tetras x 10
Guppys x 6
Angelfish x 2
Rummy Nose Tetra x 6
Algae Shrimp x 6
Apple Snails x 5

All opinions welcomed

Thanks

[Darkangel]

That list sounds like too many fish and a bad mix of fish. Where to begin............. the clown loaches will eat the apple snails, the angels once they are adults will likely eat the endlers, pencilfish, neons, guppies, and shrimp, the guppies and endlers will cross breed producing rather drab fry, there are other problems in this mix as well. Ameca splenens may be a hard fish to find and they are a bit on the aggressive side. The tank would also look very busy and overcrowded. 48x18x24 is what is usually sold here as a 90 gallon tank. 90 imperial gallons would be over 100 American gallons. I will give you 2 lists to try on for size, you decide and write back any questions or changes.
List 1:
Clown Pleco x 1
Clown Loaches x 3 at about 2 inches and be prepared to move when they get to about 4 or 5.
Dwarf Pencilfish x 8
Otocinclus Affinis x 4 or 6
Harlaquin Rasbora x 10
Albino Corrys x 6
Neon Tetras x 10

List 2:
Angelfish x 4 be prepared to seperate as adults if they pair up.
Clown Pleco x 1
Bristlenose Pleco x 1
Glowlight Dwarf Gourami x 4
Platy x 6 or 8 with maximum of 2 males
Albino Corrys x 6
Praecox rainbows x 6

This may seem lightly stocked to you but you will be happy with the looks and health of your fish. This is just my opinion but after over 20 years of fishkeeping this would be my recomendation. Good luck.

[csmaster]

Thanks for the suggestions. A 'busy' looking tank is kinda what i want, i know that list would stock to the limits, but i'm prepared to swap and change around. I didnt know the Amec's where somewhat aggressive, so i'll leave them out. I think I will also (reluctantly ;) ) leave out the angels.

The way i work out the tanks fish capacity (the way I always have) is by lenghth x depth(back to front) / 10 (10 square inch or surface area for each 1" of fish) which gives me a total of 96" of fish for that tank, and as its also 2ft deep i think and will be over filtered, then I think 100" would be fine. So given the adjustments just made, do u think the rest would be ok?

Thanks

[goldfries]

here's the calculator (http://www.briancyc.com/aquaria/index.php?id=tools) that i've just created.

it will answer your calculations more accurately.

definitely not 100 gals(us) since my 48x18x18 is approx 67gal US.

[csmaster]

Well acording to that calculator my tank is 377.56 liters, when the manufacturer says its a 300 liter...hmmm i will just measure the amount of water when i fill it...simple

now back to the fish... :D

[slipknottin]

what the heck is going on here?

a tank 48x24x20 is a 100 gallon tank (US gallons)

Its a 85 in UK gallons, or 377 liters.

[goldfries]

my calculator ( http://www.briancyc.com/aquaria/index.php?id=tools ) sez that 100 gal is correct, so it is. haha.......

sorry for the wrong volume i posted. LOL. silly me, created a calc and not using it to verify for myself. :p

[csmaster]

lol madness........now the fish!!! how about :

Clown Pleco x 1
Clown Loaches x 2
Otocinclus Affinis x 5
Bristlenose Pleco x 1
Albino Corrys x 4
Endler's Livebearer x 4
Platy x 4
Guppys x 6
Glowlight Dwarf Gourami x 2
Dwarf Pencilfish x 4
Harlaquin Rasbora x 8
Neon Tetras x 10
Rummy Nose Tetra x 6

[NJ Devils Fan]

THANK YOU SLIP!! ;)

[NJ Devils Fan]

BTW brackishwannbe, your tank is 90 gallons.

[Darkangel]

csmaster, that sounds better except I would not mix the endlers and guppies. These are really one in the same fish and will interbreed freely. If you do not care about the fry then this is not a problem. The cories would be a little happier with 6 as would the pencilfish. That is still going to be a full tank and you will need to keep on top of the water changes. Other then that sounds okay.

[csmaster]

I'm not too bothered about the fry maybe i'll a couple more corrys yes :) i'm not sure about the pencil fish, i may leave them out.

On my current tank i do 40% water change a week (heavily planted) and on this one i will do about 30% a week and it will also be pretty heavily planted