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Weasel6

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2 Firemouths? Cycling a new 29 gal. tank as we speak. Who should I drop in and cycle it with and who will be able to live with the Firemouths afterward?
Bala Shark
2- Giant Danios
2 Rosey Barbs
You pick um'
 
Originally posted by Weasel6

Bala Shark
2- Giant Danios
2 Rosey Barbs
You pick um'

Yes
Yes and
Yes.

They all would live nicely with the firemouths.

But.....

the bala will get much too big for a 29 gallon. So that one is out.

IMO: Danios are ugly and boring.

I would go with the barbs.
They will add some color and the firemouths probably won't even bother with them. I use to use them until I got hooked on Arulius barbs to go with my cichlids.
 
I third the fishless cycle. I just don't see the need to subject fish to unnecessary hardship. It's easy to do, it cost virtually nothing, and you don't run the risk of killing fish.
 
Am I doing...

half and half ? I didn't tell all the story. I filled up the tank on Saturday and turned on the filter/pump and heater. Today I dropped in an old filter from my 75 gal. and little castle from my 10 gal. to get things started. ( I posted a question about this in ' Freshwater question's' today also ) I did the same when setting up my 75. Thing is I can't remember how long it was between dropping the filter to adddng the fish was. The filter come from the 75 and castle from the 10 gal. How long should I wait between dropping the filter to adding the fish? I can't for the life of me remember how long it was. Please help! The Convicts and Firemouths are getting on each others nerves.
Does this qualify as a "fishless cycle'?
 
Sort of. If you're adding media from another tank, you're not really cycling per se. You're merely bringing in appropriate bacteria necessary for handling the nitrogen-based products. Which means you may not have to do anymore to the tank at all, depending on the bioload that you introduce (and even then you could experience a slight ammonia spike). Typically, a pure fishless cycle will involve adding ammonia to the tank. However, including used media during the process can drastically speed things up, especially if you're wanting to load up the tank quickly with fish.


What exactly do you mean by you "dropped in an old filter from my 75g"? What did you drop in? What kind of fiter do you have on the 29g? The time between adding used media to a new tank and adding fish is not really the question. IMO, it's more of a question of how much used media has been added and whether it's enough to handle the bioload immediately.

I think you're on the right track by putting in used media and there just may be enough in there to support the fish you're planning.
 
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what I did was...

I pulled out a filter from one of my 2 dual filter Whisper filter. Its one where you can wash out the sponge and replace the carbon and put it back into the filter box. What I did was pulled it out of the box ( filter machine ), let excess water drip off and carried over to the 29 and droped it in. The 75 was due for a change anyway. Its a little over its stocking limit and some are gonna get traded in for credit tomorrow. Thats why I used it, it has plenty of bacteria on it.
The filter on the 29 is a Whisper 30-40 with a single filter in it. Its filter is not quite as big as the one I dropped in from the 75. Gonna test the water tonight and see where its at. The used filter has been in there 3 days now.
 
Weasel6:

what you are doing is just fine.

I have done similar things for most of my tanks.

You really should have no problems at all.

4 fish. Especially Juveniles will not produce enough waste in a 29 to cause any significant problems. Just be careful, and keep an eye on the the water specs and you will be fine.

I have seen the the cycling debate so many times that it would make your head spin. Both are acceptable ways of doing it. It is up to the individual person whether or not to go with fish or fishless.

I personally have always done it with fish. Have been for 20 whatever years. Hey I perfer it.

Some don't that's cool. No problem.

I am curious about the whisper filter choice though?

Not that there is anything wrong with them. I just have found the aquaclear series a much easier filter to maintain on smaller tanks.
 
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