Efforts Made to OK Foreign Born Presidents

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By DONNA CASSATA

WASHINGTON (AP) - The nation's forefathers envisioned a president born in the good ol' U.S. of A.; a red, white and true-blue chief executive for when the band strikes up "Hail to the Chief."

In 1787, they put it in writing - Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution: "No person except a natural born citizen ... shall be eligible to the office of president."

More than 200 years later, in a diverse nation with more than 33 million immigrants, the push is on to alter that venerable document and allow naturalized U.S. citizens - Americans like Arnold Schwarzenegger from Thal, Austria, and Jennifer Granholm from Vancouver, B.C., - to become president.

The number of foreign-born in the United States is increasing at a rapid pace: more than 1 million a year between 2000 and 2004, according to a recent study. Those millions, however, aren't the ones some proponents of the constitutional change have in mind.


Think California Gov. Schwarzenegger. Perhaps Michigan Gov. Granholm.

A Web site, Amendforarnold.com, promotes the effort with photos of the Austrian-born Schwarzenegger and a mention of the Canadian-born Granholm - "Amend for Arnold and Jen," it proclaims. The same people who are sponsoring the Web site have bought ads on California television, hoping to create a groundswell of support.

Several measures have been introduced in Congress, including a joint resolution by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., and Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, which proposes a constitutional amendment that would extend eligibility for the presidency to immigrants who have held U.S. citizenship for at least 20 years.

Schwarzenegger became a citizen in 1983, Granholm in 1980.

Prohibiting foreign-born Americans from occupying the White House is "hard to justify in a nation where there are so many people who have become naturalized citizens," said Mark V. Tushnet, a professor of constitutional law at the Georgetown University Law Center.


Among those who think it won't happen is Schwarzenegger's wife, Maria Shriver.

"Forget about it," California's first lady says in an article in the January edition of Vanity Fair, which is scheduled to hit newsstands Wednesday. "It is not going to happen. The process takes years, and this is as far as it goes."

She said there "absolutely" should be an amendment that would allow naturalized citizens to run for president.

Madeleine Albright, the former secretary of State who was born in Czechoslovakia, recently backed amending the Constitution. "We are a country of immigrants," she said. "I think that it would be not a bad thing to try to figure out how to allow foreign-born people to become president."

The odds are against proponents of the change, which would require two-thirds majority votes in the House and Senate, then approval by three-fourths of the states.

Part of the problem, according to proponents, is a post-Sept. 11, 2001, climate in which many Americans are wary of immigrants, even legal ones, and want to tighten immigration laws.

A recent CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll found that 67 percent opposed changing the Constitution to allow immigrants to be president. When half the poll sample was asked the same question with Schwarzenegger's name, opposition dropped slightly to 58 percent.

Proponents also must contend with the political impression that the nascent movement is being mounted for one Republican.

"Democrats may be nervous putting in place a constitutional amendment that might have the immediate impact of promoting Governor Schwarzenegger's candidacy," Tushnet said.

Also, Democrats, who saw President Bush increase his support among Hispanics in the 2004 election, might be loath to fight anything that boosts opportunities for immigrants.

Tushnet said any Democratic reticence about Schwarzenegger could be dealt with by deferring the effective date of the change to 2012, similar to what Congress and the states did in 1951 when they ratified the 22nd Amendment but exempted President Truman from the limit of two terms.

A deferred date, however, could cost the effort Republican support, especially among those in the GOP who dream of bodybuilder-actor-politician Schwarzenegger as commander in chief.

Still, proponents remain optimistic that like the California recall effort that made Schwarzenegger governor, changing the Constitution might capture widespread public support.

"I wouldn't bet the mortgage against it, and I wouldn't bet it for it," Rohrabacher said in a telephone interview.

Lissa Morgenthaler-Jones, former mutual fund manager behind the Amendforarnold Web site and ad campaign, said: "On an intellectual level, it's virtually impossible. Intuitively, this is a no-brainer. You can feel a groundswell starting."
 
Pretty sad that we cant find anyone to vote for out of the 200,000,000 choices we have now. :(
 
You know, he was good as The Terminator...however, I am not too fond of Arnold being our next president.

There was only one actor-turned-politician who could pull it off. haha no, not Sonny Bono. ;)

I think we've had one too many bozo's in the White House these past few years. Hell, if they pass this they should also make it possible for a president to run again even after already serving two terms (i.e. Clinton 2008!)

What do I know? I voted Nader in 2000.
 
Ah! Excellent! If I move now, in 20 years I can take the Presidency and the USA will be mine! Stage one of plan for world domination would be complete! :p

On a more serious note, it's completely foolish that
a post-Sept. 11, 2001, climate in which many Americans are wary of immigrants, even legal ones, and want to tighten immigration laws.
should have any impact on this amendment. It's one thing to want to be more choosy about who you let into the country, but a completely different thing about whether or not to let someone who's lived there and been a citizen for 20-some years be President, the two just don't follow.
 
Snake Eyez said:
No thanks. I would like to see it stay as native born Americans only.
I agree. And approve that message.
:)
 
I'm not a huge fan of amending the constitution but I'm not offended by the idea of someone who wasn't born here becoming president.
 
ash said:
I'm not a huge fan of amending the constitution but I'm not offended by the idea of someone who wasn't born here becoming president.

Just not Arnie. ANYBODY but Arnie. If he becomes president, MLK Day is going to be renamed "National Grope Day."
 
hopefully that won't happen.I guess I don't like the idea of it being amended for someone in particular but am not against it being amended. I'm not sure why I feel that way, it's odd I know.
 
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