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Fome
12-08-2004, 3:38 AM
I'm looking at this site: http://www.gregwatson.com/

I was wondering which I should purchase for liquid fertilizers. I'm not really sure what's needed and what everything does. Some help would be greatly appreciated.

This would be for a heavily planted 10g

Darkblade48
12-08-2004, 5:44 AM
The stickies would have told you what everything did, but here's a brief summary

KNO3 - Provides K and NO3
K2SO4 - Provides K and SO4
MgSO4 - Provides Mg and SO4
Trace mix - Provides various trace elements

Those would be the "essentials"

You could of course, have a solution that uses KCl as a source of K instead, or you could have KH2PO4 for a source of P etc.

The possibilities are endless

Captain Hook
12-08-2004, 1:58 PM
What kind and how much lighting on the tank? How much of a fish load and feeding? You may not need to add ferts at all.

Fome
12-08-2004, 2:16 PM
Ideally, I'll have 1 betta, 6-7 neons, and 2-3 otos.
2.5 wpg, I might add 15 more watts somehow just to get out of that "weird" zone in between low light and high light.
I plan on making my own substrate out of sand, laterite (may not use, hard to get here) mulm, garden loam, and some gravel on top.

It will be heavily planted and basically, I'm just wondering about what kind of liquid ferts will I need to be adding.

Captain Hook
12-08-2004, 9:36 PM
Tank size?

Slappy*McFish
12-08-2004, 9:38 PM
10g

Captain Hook
12-08-2004, 9:53 PM
Thanks slappy I missed that. You may be able to get away with little or no fertilizer if you feed the fish a lot. Also depends on the plants you choose. If you go with easy ones like crypts, anubias, java fern, java moss, etc you can get away with no liquid ferts easier in my experience.

djlen
12-08-2004, 9:59 PM
In a 10 gallon, with 25 watts, you are not going to need a lot of extra fertilization.
You would do fine with the Seachem Flourish line of ferts., which have products that supply N,P, and K and plain Flourish(not Flourish 'Trace') for your traces. They also have a product for augmenting carbon content in the water table, called Excel.
All of the above are liquids and easily dosed.
I would dose these products at 1/2 the bottle's recommendations and see how the plants respond. If they show signs of needing more you can always up the dosages, but if you over-fertilize the repercussions with algae can be a problem.
It would help to know what type plants you want to grow, and what your goal for the tank is.
I would also suggest staying with 2.5 watts initially, until you learn how to balance what you're supplying with your lighting. It's much easier to balance lower lighting than higher lighting, and you can grow a great variety of plants under that light in a 10.
Do you have it set up with substrate, filter etc., or are you still in the planning stages?
A bag of Flourite would fill the bottom of that tank well and give you a great base from which to start.

Len

Fome
12-08-2004, 10:15 PM
i have a medium planted tank right now, some hornwort, brazilian microsword, water sprite, and bacopa (bacopa all dying, not sure why) with a pure gravel substrate, some diy co2 attached to an airstone (fixing that soon) and basically I want to redo it so it looks better. I'm going to get some more rocks, some driftwood and try to make it look like an actual aquascape instead of a bunch of rocks and odd plants mashed together.

I want a lush foreground (brazillian micro sword looks nice but isn't filling in much) a lush background (not quite sure what to put in there yet, combination of red lillies, hornwort, water sprite, maybe some baby tears or moneywort, maybe a giant anubias or a few swords, dunno. Then I'd also like some anubias attached to the driftwood.

djlen
12-08-2004, 10:28 PM
It's a matter of personal choice, but I've come to feel that in a small tank, in order for it to look in balance, plants with small leaves are a good choice.
Try some Anubia Nana. They have smaller leaves and take up less space in the tank.
Bacopa Carolinia, can make a nice background in a 10, and will use excess nutrients for you.
Many people(myself included) find that large bunches of just a few varieties tend to look more natural than 90 different types of plants 'mashed' together.
But you know what? When I started out, I finally figured out that I had to find out for myself, what I liked in plants and more importantly, what would grow for me.
Plants that are 'easy' for some are brutal for others. So I ended up planting lots of different varieties, early on and once I found out what I could grow I started limiting the types within the tanks.

Len