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Dangerdoll
11-30-2002, 1:08 PM
Ok, since my sister is starting up a SW, she's convinced one of her friends to do the same....... however, he's got a couple of Angels that will be needing a new home. My sister thought it'd be a brilliant idea to offer them to my already established Angel home (55 gal). My problem is that I've already got 2 angels which seem happy enough in the tank and they've been tank mates since they were about the size of a dime and are about 2 years old now. She indicates that the "new" angels are quite smaller than mine (mine are 2 full egg-laying adults, over 4"). Would it be a bad idea to introduce these new guys to my tank since my guys have been tankmates from the very beginning? I just don't want to add any problems to my seemingly happy tank. :confused:
thanks for all replies ;)
Should be Ok... Angels are, you already know, very peaceful. ;)
Dobermann
11-30-2002, 3:18 PM
Angels even though quite delicate are still territorial cichlids.
The new additions will be severely harassed. Whether or not they make it is anyone's guess and will depend on their individual size and temperament.
Mcdaphnia
11-30-2002, 4:13 PM
You mentioned both of your angels are egg laying adults. If I interpret that right, both of your angels are females? In that case, adding two more angels slightly smaller might be an interesting experiment. Perhaps a clear divider could be installed.
Dangerdoll
11-30-2002, 4:15 PM
I seem to be leaning towards the "not adding the new ones" side of the spectrum at this point......
well, my male can have the tendancy to be quite aggressive, as past experience has proved this. Initially in my tank, there were 4 angels at one time but due to the aggressive behavior of my present male, I gave 2 of the originals up. So, my question would then be "if" there were any chance this would work, the new additions should be bigger than my 2? Or would you think that because of his past intolerance of other angels except his lady-angel, that I'd be better off keeping just the two of them......?
Dangerdoll
11-30-2002, 4:19 PM
You mentioned both of your angels are egg laying adults.
oops, sorry to confuse the matter, 1 is a male, and the other a female....of course the female being the egg-layer. They are a breeding pair in that she has produced quite a few sets of eggs while he went and did his thing......but they have never gotten past the "eating them right up before anything hatched" stage.
I know they are territorial, when breeding... but for a 55 gallon, there should be no trouble... What other tank mates are there?
Dangerdoll
11-30-2002, 4:54 PM
well, for tank mates I have:
aside from the 2 angels....
a few cory's (not sure what
type but they love to
lay eggs themselves)
1 pleco (common)
1 yellow (lemon) spotted pleco
2 common algae eaters
1 black red tailed shark
and 2 dwarf puffers
I know it would seem odd that the puffers and the angels reside in the same tank because of the tendency for the puffers to be fin-nippers but apparently, they live together quite peacefully.
Well, you gotta remember that it's a 55... That's why I think, that two more Angels, will do fine, especially since the ones you have now... are living peaceful with puffers... ;)
Dobermann
11-30-2002, 5:28 PM
In a 55 gal that might be ok with some initial fighting.
It should only happen occasionally though... ;)
Dangerdoll
11-30-2002, 6:27 PM
occasionally.....you're talking about the fighting, right? so I shouldn't freak out with a spat here and there in the beginning.......this should die off (the fighting)?
maybe I will give it a go
thanks everyone!! :D
When you first introduce the new angels into the tank, of course, they will hide for maybe a day or two... After that, they'll realize that there are other Angels in the tank... Now if the two original angels are mating... that's the only time I would imagine some fighting... Don't get too worried about it though. ;)
Dobermann
11-30-2002, 8:26 PM
I think that either way their will be some initial squabbling. Especially if your current Angels have been in there alone for a long time. They see the entire tank as their territory. Adding any cichlid but particularly two more Angels will cause them to attempt to assert themselves and let those other fish know that they are the head honchos via chasing, biting, and charging. In a 55 G there should be enough space for the new Angels to stay out of the resident pairs way and as they grow maybe stake out an area of their own.
Whether it be Angels, Festivums, Rams, or a Red Terror there is no way that you can just add two new cichilds to an already established tank and not expect to see some intial chasing and charging. But it should subside.
Yea I agree, there will be some occasional fighting, but it shouldn't last too long. ;)