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Wildkarrde

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advertising for someone else LOL, I'll tell you my story anyways because I think it's good info. I recently finished building a nice rectangular pond with a three tiered waterfall. It's all right angles and tiled in slate. Looks very nice. Anyways, I spent a ton of time trying to be sure I could maintain the natural look to the slate while still keeping any contaminants from leeching into my pond either through the cement, fiberglass or any of my other construction materials. I finally came across Koi Kote. They have a site at www.koi-koteusa.com They sell epoxy pond coatings in a few different colors. I needed clear and they had it. I bought enough to coat the interior of my main pond and the three tiers. The stuff worked great! And just as I wanted it preserved the natural look of the slate tile. Woot! I'm still working on editing the filming I did, but I'll see if I can post pics. Oh one other thing that I'd like to share, they had said it was as easy as painting. It was. Eeven a dummy like me managed to roll it on LMAO!
 
At the risk of sounding like an advertizement...? well h3ll, I've seen this same post at other message boards in the past two days... with the same nick and that nick only has 1 post as well on those boards, and the same join date.

me thinks it's an advertizement ;)
 
It's true. I have posted this on other boards. The deal is that I spent long hours trying to figure out what I thought was the best thing to use for my pond. I'm fairly new to the whole pond thing and I wasn't getting a ton of help as there was just so much to sift through. I apoligize for maybe spamming the boards but I just feel what I found was a pretty cool product and now that I have used it I just wanted to share. I couldn't be happier with how my stuff turned out.

I could spend time talking about what filter system I used but it seems to me bead filters are nothing new to talk about, nether are the jets I have in my pond. So... Now all I have to do is start learning how to pick out koi fish for it. Right now they pretty much all look the same to me (sort of) and I want to make sure I research the best places to get my fish. Again sorry for sounding like an advertisement. :)
 
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Oh and by the way I went and started reading the pond newsgroups. Got an email tonight telling me hey don;t post replies to this person or that like you did tonight, they are trolls. See the trouble I am getting into? And those posts weren't even about my pond, they were about aquariums :p go figure
 
Being labelled a "troll" is not a good thing. While your post maybe sincere there are many many other's out there that post things such as your's that are not, they are out to promote their product to make a buck... who can blame them really - it's free advertising - but many sites have advertizers that pay to have their products showcased so it's sort of "frowned" on and most admins deal with "spammers" quite swiftly.

I have no doubt KoiKote is a good product, there are serveral similar products out there.
Being new to these boards it might be a good idea to talk about your pond and how you built it. Ask questions about Koi. There are many of us "old hats" hanging about that enjoy those discussions... and many new ponders who may benefit from it as well.

BTW if you want the best places to buy fish.. you gotta ask ;)
 
First to clarify, because your post sounds this way... I was not labeled a troll, someone I contacted was a troll. LOL whew! Don;t want anyone thinking I'm a troll :)

Ok I'm asking I'm asking :) Can you give me a list of a few good places to get koi? I guess I started out by wanting koi that looked nice and all, but lately I have been leaning towards koi that have some background, you know what I mean? I have heard of koi that come with papers and so on and I thought it might be neat to have those papers set up to view somewhere in the house or something. I hope I don't sound too eccentric LOL
 
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I see you're participating over at KV, cool :)

As long as you aren't warty and green, I think you'd pass for not being a troll :D

While I realize from reading a few of your posts that you've put a lot of thought into what you are doing I suggest you hold off getting higher end koi for now. Imagine how you would feel to have a koi "with papers", which cost you a months mortgage payment or more, and have it up and die because something went wrong? Start off "small" and work your way up. You'd be surprised how much your taste in koi can change in just a couple of growing seasons. And read up on Quarantine. Purchasing koi from more than one source has it's own issues.

BTW, koi with papers are a gimick for the most part... and if you want to have those that are authentic then you best plan a trip to Japan ;) but you'd be hard pressed to find them anyways as not many breeders or dealers there have "papers" for the koi being purchased. Buyer beware. If you're looking for background on the koi you need to ask the dealer and hopefully they will be honest with you about where their koi stock comes from(who the breeders are). Don't expect that at garden centres and the local pet shop, they purchase through brokers. The best thing is to educate yourself on the many breeders, study their koi stock closely. While it appears a koi is a koi that's not the case. Like many creatures there are subtle differences in facial features, body confirmation, and skin texture(appearence), depth of colours. Most breeders specialize in a couple of varieties, like Momontaro, primarily Kohaku and Sanke is the focus.

Check out Koi-Bito(google it), the BB there is mainly focused on Japanese Koi.
Subscribing to koi topic mags is a good idea, Koi USA is pretty good. Nishikigoi International is very good. Koi-Bito is the Best I've seen yet.

There are several reputable dealers/breeders in the US and UK. Some have only high-end(show koi) but most have a variety of grades available. Where you from?

US there is Koi by Keirin, Mystic Koi, Quality Koi(breeder and dealer), Blackwater Creek, Brett's Fish Farm(breeder and dealer), Lotus Land Koi Farms(breeder and dealer), just to name a few.

Ok, done with my ramble...
 
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Start off "small" and work your way up. You'd be surprised how much your taste in koi can change in just a couple of growing seasons.
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LOL I don't plan to EAT any of my koi :D Haha I just couldn't help myself. Well your post was very informative. I have been to Koi bito and they are a wealth of information. I plan to look into the other places you suggest too. It's funny you said that the papers were probably more of a gimic as it sort of felt that way to me as well, but hey what do I know? In any event, I will give some thought to starting smaller as well. Thanks for the help!
 
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