What about RO water for a FO tank?

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I'm looking to start my first marine tank. Fish Only. I have read a couple of books so far, the latter being the Conscientious Marine Aquarist. The author says in this book that RO water is not necessary for FO tanks (Just needs to be aged and treated). Is this true?

I'm on a real budget here and RO/DI units are not cheap.

My equipment so far:
55 Gal
2 standard 24" flor. hoods
seaclone 100 skimmer
Large hang on power filter.
200W heater

Planning to get:
A couple of power heads for water movement.
Sand? Crushed Coral? <<-- Advise here please
Maybe a couple of pieces of live rock...so expensive here $6.00/lb

Any Recommendations?

Thanks!!
 
no RO water isnt needed. Jus properly mix and age your water then cycle ur tank. U can either do it with fish or fishless. Definately get some LR! and as for substrate I recommend crushed coral. Plus your going to need some ph,nitrite nitrate test kits
 
What fish are you interested in having?

Contact your water utility and ask for the latest water chemistry report. This will give you some idea what you're dealing with, and help determine if tapwater will work. If it's high in nitrates or phosphates, you'll want to consider alternatives. Ditto for heavy metals.


For substrate--a lot will depend on what fish you want. I prefer sand--it's easier to keep clean, and doesn't trap solid wastes like crushed coral will, creating what's known as a nitrate trap. All those solid wastes break down and make it difficult to keep nitrates low. The fish you want will also play a role.

Live rock is the best biological filtration you can buy--much better than the power filter. Will you be adding crabs, snails, stars, etc? You can start out with 15-20 pounds of live rock and the rest (about 50-90 pounds) of lace rock. The bacteria will colonize both, providing all the biological filtration you'll need. Add in some critters, and you've got good mechanical filtration. The rock also gives the fish cover--very important for their long term health.

Fishless cycling would be preferable--less stress on the fish, less stress on you, and no concerns for removing the hardy fish used in the process (or dealing with their aggression later on!).
 
Can I add crabs, snails, stars?

I would like to keep smaller fish. Blennies, Gobies, Clowns maybe a hawkfish.

I will definately use fishless cycle.

I am still building my stand, worked on staining some of it today. Hope to get it finished and get the tank setup this weekend.

Still cannot decide on substrate. You said sand is easier to keep clean, how so? In my freshwater systems I use one of those siphoning gravel cleaners and it works well. I figured that would be how to clean the crushed coral also, as it appears to be similar to gravel. It would also facilitate the partial water changes.
 
Blennies, gobies and clowns will all be safe with a variety of inverts, but hawkfish are hit or miss. They tend to go after shrimp. But--the inverts are the best mechanical cleaners available. Much better, and lower maintenance, than a power filter that can't get into nooks and crannies.

In SW, the sand is cleaned up by the snails, crabs, stars, etc. I've never seen solid waste build up on my SW tanks with sand, where in my FW systems, I have to clean the sand with a siphon over the surface. This just isn't needed in a SW system. With CC, you do have to clean it, which is complicated by the beneficial animals that live in there--you end up killing them or removing them. Plus, CC will trap solid wastes, no matter how frequently you clean, and this will contribute to higher nitrate levels. Fish typically are okay with lightly elevated nitrates but many inverts are not.
 
OK, I think I'm going to try the sand. All I have access to is the silica sand. According to what I read here, that will be OK, right?

If so how deep should it be?

Also, I hope to get my tank setup tommorrow. I will fill it with fresh water to test everything. If everything is ok, can I go ahead and mix salt in the tank? Then add sand and rock later?

Thanks alot for yor help.
 
OK so much for not using RO water. I sprung for the Kent unit today. I knew I would need it eventually so I went ahead and bought it.

LFG talked me into removing the di unit and replacing it with another carbon cartridge. Said that the DI was not really necesary and extra carbon would extend the life of the membrane. Does this sound right to you guys?
 
Silica works just fine. It's what I have in my nano, and there have been no problems with algae issues, or even pH stability. 3-4 inches is a good range for the sand. For the initial fill, you can mix the salt into the water in the tank. For water changes, it's important to pre-mix the water before adding it to the tank.

The DI unit does something totally different than carbon. If the additional carbon is before the RO membrane, it will help some to extand the membranes like, but carbon has to be replaced frequently to remain viable, especially if there are a lot of chemicals it will be removing from your water.
 
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