Poll: UFO's ?

[125gJoe]

Do you believe there are UFO's as in extraterrestial, or not?

[Maj0rFiSh]

Yea, when i ws younger around 10, i would watch all stuff like that on discovery, im no geek btw!

and i got a telescope too :)

but now its fading off, as there hasnt been any siting like there were in the past decade.

Or like the time of roswell...

[gonefishin]

Do I believe in ufo's? yes. Are they extra terrestrial? not too sure.

[kveeti]

Definitely. In fact, when I have my hair all done up nicely in tin foil (so I’m just colouring the roots), I get all kinds of interesting comments from the family like, “Have you heard from the home planet?” I myself think I’m just impersonating a porcupine.

But, seriously, I answered ‘yes’ on the poll.

[labont865]

Of course there are UFOs and ETs. How could anybody say there isnt. There are billions of stars and most have at least a few planets. How could somebody say that there is no chance that at least on of those billions of planets dont have life on them in one form or another. The UFO thing, they arent necessarily alien spaceships but there are UFOs.

[Slappy*McFish]

I don't doubt that some UFOs are from another world, but the majority are from planet Earth. Some could be simple tricks of light, hoaxes, ordinary aircraft, and some could even be top-secret military aircraft being tested.

[StreetCypher]

Of course there are UFOs and ETs. How could anybody say there isnt. There are billions of stars and most have at least a few planets. How could somebody say that there is no chance that at least on of those billions of planets dont have life on them in one form or another. The UFO thing, they arent necessarily alien spaceships but there are UFOs.

Yeah, i agree. Its just plain ignorant to think we're the only things in the universe. As for UFO's, yes, are they extraterrestrial, no.
I don't believe aliens have visitied Earth.

[Matak]

I don't doubt that some UFOs are from another world, but the majority are from planet Earth. Some could be simple tricks of light, hoaxes, ordinary aircraft, and some could even be top-secret military aircraft being tested.I'm with you.

[125gJoe]

http://www.texsign.com/photos/alienx.jpg

:D

[Petra]

UFOs - most definitely
Aliens - certainly, as was already stated it's almost impossible not to have other intelligent life in the universe

I just highly doubt that the two are related. Of all the galaxies and all the stars and all the planets, ours is only one and it's quite insignificant, even though we believe otherwise, as is/are the other planet(s) with life quite insignificant. Intelligent life finding intelligent life would be miraculous.

[Eviljackrabbit]

i think they are UFO's come on earth is like a grain of sand at the beach. So earth isnt the only green planet.

[slipknottin]

The question of believing in intelligent life on other planets, and wether that life has ever visited us are different questions, IMO.

I believe that no aliens have visited the earth, as there is really no documented evidence for it what so ever. Albeit there are unexplained sightings, but unexplained != aliens.

[Eviljackrabbit]

okay u cant see Air but its there, u can feel it but cant hold it RIGHT. think about all the unexplain events that happen. i think the government is covering up things.

[slipknottin]

okay u cant see Air but its there, u can feel it but cant hold it RIGHT. think about all the unexplain events that happen. i think the government is covering up things.

I really have no idea what point your making. Yes, we cant see air. Are you implying that aliens are invisible or a gas? :confused:

Something like 80-90% of UFO sightings can be explained by simple things like weather balloons, aircraft, unusual weather, etc. The other 10% may be military prototype aircraft, weird weather phenomon or things like that. I dont see how unexplained automatically equates into intelligent life from another planet.

[Eviljackrabbit]

Only because we cant see them doesnt mean they havent visited us. Beside in england they have been sites of weird lights in the sky and over crops. I wonder if they really are out there tho. i guess its something we wont find out for a long time....... Any ways How much do u think it will cost me to convert my Fresh water tank to a salt water "its a 60 gal. tank"

[slipknottin]

Only because we cant see them doesnt mean they havent visited us.

Well I, like the scientific community, am quite skeptical, and wait until I see actual evidence of such a visit before I conclude that its true.

[FL Knifemaker]

Yes and yes ;)

[flyingfish]

I think ufo's are created or imagined by people. The same way I can see all kinds of shapes in the clouds or faces in patterns of my ceiling. However, if an alien spaceship lands in my yard I will be honored to make first contact. :D If we find aliens I'll be happy for the company and if they don't exist I'll be extremely flattered that God believes we are too special to create anything similair to us.

[Harlock]

I have a problem with the poll... See, obviously UFOs exist. By definition it is an unidentified flying object. Lots of people see things in the sky they cannot indentify, so therefore, they exist. I also believe in extraterrestrial life. More scientists are jumping on board everyday as well. The chances of another "earth-type" planet out there are pretty good. We are discovering new planets all the time now that we can watch stars do their little wobble and pick up on it. Now, we need to find a system that has something like a Jupiter out there to shield and earth-like planet from all the space-junk that is floating around. Even if the chances are a trillion to one that a star system has a planet like ours, we're in good shape.

Now, do I believe UFOs are piloted by little grey men with big foreheads and black orb-like eyes? Not for a minute.

[125gJoe]

I have a problem with the poll... See, obviously UFOs exist.I think I 'spelled it out' pretty good... ...to the point.


Now, do I believe UFOs are piloted by little grey men with big foreheads and black orb-like eyes? Not for a minute.With that statement, you don't believe UFO's are extraterrestrial.

[125gJoe]

.... The other 10% may be military prototype aircraft, weird weather phenomon or things like that. I dont see how unexplained automatically equates into intelligent life from another planet.
Sure, I agree some sightings can be 'explained' and forgotten, but back in the '50's with 200+ witnesses in New York watched a "craft" dart around with such speed it would crush any earthly being on board. There were no military experiments that could come close to the speed and turns this made. That was just one sighting back then (there have been many, and many credible witnesses). Now, technology has improved, I think not so much as to duplicated the radical turns of the craft I mentioned. We are not that sophisticated in the high tech realm. .

[slipknottin]

Sure, I agree some sightings can be 'explained' and forgotten, but back in the '50's with 200+ witnesses in New York watched a "craft" dart around with such speed it would crush any earthly being on board.
Well, almost all sightings can be explained. The one in your example I have not read about, chances are someone somewhere has the answer.


There were no military experiments that could come close to the speed and turns this made.
Or so you know... Nobody knew of the military experiments near Roswell that started what is probably the most famous case. With the crashed ship and alien autopsy and whatnot. Of course, now that the military has shared their experiments with the public, nearly all of that is explained and isnt unusual at all.


Now, technology has improved, I think not so much as to duplicated the radical turns of the craft I mentioned. We are not that sophisticated in the high tech realm. .

I would not rule it out. Nobody had any idea that stealth aircraft existed 25 years ago either. The military and especially the air force have done and continue to create some incredible machines. The blackbird, F-117, B2, U2, and other still unknown vehicles, like the 'aurora' or what is possibly being toyed with now, planes invisible to the human eye.

IMO, in nearly every case Ive heard people will embelish and add to the story, so much so that its impossible to get the actual facts. For instance, the story in russia where an unusual light in the sky caused holes in windows and almost triggered a nuclear launch... None of the different things, holes in windows, weird lights, and the nuclear launch going active were related at all, yet people attempted to relate them simply because they wanted to believe in something unique or 'special'. The weird lights were a secret soviet missle launch, the holes in the glass existed before any unknown light in the sky appeared, and the near nuclear launch wasent a near nuclear launch at all. A light turned on from a loose wire...

The UFO crowd got extremely exicted after the collapse of the Soviet Union because it meant that now had access to all of the secret files the Soviet Union kept on UFOs... Guess what they found in all of these files...

Nothing. :laugh: Just goes to show that these secret unknown files dont always mean there are any actual secrets in them.

In any case, I absolutely believe that life on another planet is possible, even probable, but until that is confirmed, I can not and will conclude that it exists. Probabilities arent facts. And as far as aliens visting us is concerned, I dont believe something being unidentified translates into it being an alien encounter. There is simply no reason to believe such things besides wishful thinking.

I will admit however, that an alien encounter is far more likely than something like big foot, the loch ness monster, or Noah's flood.

[125gJoe]

Quote:
Originally Posted by 125gJoe
Sure, I agree some sightings can be 'explained' and forgotten, but back in the '50's with 200+ witnesses in New York watched a "craft" dart around with such speed it would crush any earthly being on board.

slipknottin:
Well, almost all sightings can be explained. The one in your example I have not read about, chances are someone somewhere has the answer.

Nope.. Not even my father who was one of those witnesses. No one on earth can explain 90 degree turns at thousands of miles per hour. At that time - it was certainly not "human" technology.

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I am not trying to change anyones' thoughts on this, but rather to put the subject out and see what others have experienced, or think on this subject.

[125gJoe]

STS 48 filmed UFO ....

"One of the most spectacular video footages of a UFO encounter was taken by cameras on board the Discovery space shuttle on 15 September, 1991. The video sequence was picked up live by a number of amateurs who were directly monitoring the transmissions. The material has been shown in news broadcasts and circulated amongst UFO researchers worldwide.

The video shows several small bright objects manoeuvering on screen, apparently interacting with one another in a complex fashion. Sceptics have usually insisted these are merely shots of some of the many small ice particles which inevitably end up in orbit with every space shuttle.

UFO investigators were quick to dispute this interpretation, and US scientist Richard C. Hoagland soon conclusively demonstrated the objects were actually large-sized and many hundreds of kilometres away from the shuttle.

One UFO in particular appears to rise up from below the Earth's dawn horizon and can be clearly seen emerging from behind the atmosphere and the 'airglow' layers. It is certainly in orbit around the Earth, some distance out in space, and travelling quickly.

A sudden, bright flash of light is then seen to the left of the picture, below the shuttle. The UFO then turns at a sharp angle and heads out into space at very high speed. Two thin beams of light (or possibly condensation trails) move rapidly up from the Earth's surface towards where the UFO would have been if it had continued in its original orbit.

Subsequently, careful analysis of the video shows that:

* The distance from the Discovery to the Earth's horizon is 2,757 kilometres

* The UFO's speed before accelerating into space is 87,000 kph (Mach 73)

* Three seconds after the light flash, the UFO changes direction sharply and accelarates off into space at 340,000 kph (Mach 285) within 2.2 seconds

* Such an acceleration would produce 14,000 g of force (1g is normal Earth gravity)

The scenario was probably captured on video purely by chance. Along with other UFO incidents recorded on video by NASA, this material has contributed significantly towards NASA's recent decision to discontinue live television transmissions from space.

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Of course this is explained away as "dust" or "interactive ice particles"... :D

[labont865]

Well I, like the scientific community, am quite skeptical, and wait until I see actual evidence of such a visit before I conclude that its true.


Actually a truely good scientist believes that anything could be possible/true/real until it is proven to not be possible/true/real. Not that nothin is possible/true/real until its proven to be possible/true/real.

Skeptisizm is for people who are afraid to face what is very well possible.
The chances for something like aliens or bigfoot is very possible. There are over 25 new species discovered on land everyday. and nearly 100 new species discovered under water everyday. Thus meaning it is very possible for big foot to exist. It may not be what everybody thinks it is, but it is probably out there in some shape or form.
And as stated before it is plain ignorance to think there arent any other beings out there in some form or another. I do however agree that it is a very small chance if they do exist that aliens have visited us but I wouldnt say it is impossible.

P.S. this isnt all directed to one person it is also a general statement.

[125gJoe]

More thoughts....

Verbatim Transcript of Senator John Glenn on "Fraser" Tuesday, March 6, 2001:

"Back in those glory days, I was very uncomfortable when they asked us to say things we didn't want to say and deny other things. Some people asked, you know, were you alone out there? We never gave the real answer, and yet we see things out there, strange things, but we know what we saw out there. And we couldn't really say anything. The bosses were really afraid of this, they were afraid of the War of the Worlds type stuff, and about panic in the streets. So, we had to keep quiet. And now we only see these things in our nightmares or maybe in the movies, and some of them are pretty close to being the truth."

The entire plot of the show was designed to support John Glenn's appearance. Fraser was jealous of John Glenn and felt competitive about sharing airtime on the radio. In the pivotal scene, Fraser and a female character were arguing with each other inside of an isolated sound room while Glenn faced the camera directly and delivered the above soliloquy. The entire scene had a very strange, non-comedic feeling and seemed to have nothing to do with what the rest of the show was about.

After Glenn finished delivering the speech, he returned to the control room where Fraser and the woman were arguing. At this point he realizes that he was being taped and says that he needs to take the tape; he was unaware that he was being recorded and this information "can't get out to the public."

Thus, it appears that public comedy -- things the common people are relating to -- is one of the main vehicles through which the disclosure is finally being realized."

http://www.anomalous-images.com/UFOCIG.JPG





Here's one response I found :

"Glenn is old. When you get older, cholesterol blocks oxygen to brain and brain is slowly dying (usually after 50-60). You gradually lose cognitive (learning) abilities, memory,ability to logically analyse."

Gotta love that persons 'thought process'!! LOL :laugh:

[NowherMan6]

How do we explain the lack of contact? I mean, we've been beaming out radio signals for the past 50 years looking to make some sort of contact with whatever's out there, but havent heard a peep back. If they're buzzing the planet, they obviously can hear us. Surely they've mastered something as rudimentary as radio waves. What gives?

I'm inclined to believe that there must be other intelleigent life forms in the universe, but I'm even more inclined to believe that we're too far away (and moving ever further...) to ever make significant contact. Laws of space and time are exactly that: laws. You can't move faster than light. Say we find a new system of planets 1,000 light years away - it would take those beings 1,000 years to get here, and 1,000 years to get back.. and that's moving at the speed of light! We dont know anything about them, let alone lifespans, but I dont know, it just doesn't seem that plausible to me.

I wouldn't dare presume that we know everything there is to know about the laws that govern the universe, but I do think we have a good start. There just seems like so much to overcome to believe that these UFOs are buzzing our planet randomly, with no discernable reason and no attempt at real contact.

In any case, 126gJoe, do you have abetter picture than that - I know I can personally do a lot better in photoshop... heck, even in paintbrush... ;)

[Timmain42]

You folks better keep on hoping that all we get is a "buzz-by" or just observation. Any species that is capable of interstellar flight will be able to defeat any human millitary or electronic devices that now exist.

"I, for one, welcome our alien overlords."

I don't have an alien spaceship as my avatar just for fun, you know.

[slipknottin]

Actually a truely good scientist believes that anything could be possible/true/real until it is proven to not be possible/true/real. Not that nothin is possible/true/real until its proven to be possible/true/real.


That is fundamentally the same as not saying something is true until its proven. Hence I will not say life exists on another planet or that they have visited us until their is actual proof of either.

There is, i regret to inform you, no chance of bigfoot or loch ness. Either would need a breeding population of well over a thousand animals to survive through time.

[Timmain42]

How do we explain the lack of contact? I mean, we've been beaming out radio signals for the past 50 years looking to make some sort of contact with whatever's out there, but havent heard a peep back. If they're buzzing the planet, they obviously can hear us. Surely they've mastered something as rudimentary as radio waves. What gives?

I have always figured that any species that is intelligent enough to travel between stars and possibly FTL is smart enough to stay away from a species that points sub- and full-nuclear weapons at it's own planet. It's ONLY planet.

Face it, we are a stellar backwater species that sucks at math. We aren't even smart enough to get individual humans to the outer limits of our own solar system. Why would any ETs even bother contacting us when its much easier to just observe us until we get our interstellar feces together?

[Harlock]

I think I 'spelled it out' pretty good... ...to the point.

With that statement, you don't believe UFO's are extraterrestrial.
Well, not the ones we see here. That's not to say on some other planet somewhere there isn't some species that developed flying machines. Also, I've never heard a reasonable explanation as to how they could get here. Light Speed and Warp Drives are sort of... out of the realms of physics and into Sci-Fi.

[Timmain42]

Light Speed and Warp Drives are sort of... out of the realms of physics and into Sci-Fi.
200 years ago, powered human flight was nothing but a madman's dream. Now there are over a thousand domestic flights across the US, every day. 150 years ago, the height of medical technology was a glass jar full of leeches. Today? We have a robot that can operate on a patient without immediate human intervention, and the robot's operator can even be on another continent.

And it's worse than you think, now we have the technology to run machinery without using our hands:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6989239/

Lots of thoughts that were considered "scifi" only 40 years ago are now practical realities. Hell, Captain Kirk's communicator is almost twice the size of the cellphone I use. Humans, while fairly dense, are good at reaching and realizing technologies once they understand that what they want is actually possible. Give it a couple more centuries. We'll get there. :)

[Harlock]

So you disagree with Einstein and others that it is physically impossible to reach light speed? Or do you favor a wormhole or folded-space theory?

[slipknottin]

150 years ago, the height of medical technology was a glass jar full of leeches. Today? We have a robot that can operate on a patient without immediate human intervention, and the robot's operator can even be on another continent.


And leeches are making a comeback... :soda:

[Timmain42]

I'm not so hot on wormholes.. they don't *seem* stable enough to me (but then again, I just live here). I'd think that fold-space or tesseracting would be much more energy-efficient.

And don't get me started on the leeches. That's just nasty. Effective, but nasty.

[slipknottin]

So you disagree with Einstein and others that it is physically impossible to reach light speed? Or do you favor a wormhole or folded-space theory?

The two can both be true.

[Harlock]

True enough. And there is evidence to support lightspeed being broken... by light... oddly. Quantam physics is too darn hard to wrap your head around sometimes. I mean one of the accelrated light tests actually suggests the light exited the experiment before it entered! Argh. If I still drank I am certain I would understand that better.

[labont865]

There is, i regret to inform you, no chance of bigfoot or loch ness. Either would need a breeding population of well over a thousand animals to survive through time.


Then tell me how a population of 300 right whales is thriving and actually re-building there numbers? And what about Cheetahs whos numbers were wiped to less then 800 and now have replenished those numbers well into the thousands. What about mice who in two to three years can build their population from 2 to well into the thousands. I mean yes there is alot of in-breeding that can add to chances of deformaties and disease and even shortens life-spans. But it does happen. And as Doctor Malcolm(Jurassic Park) said: "Life will find a way." And perhaps that the exact problem, there are so little of them that they are being wiped out and there are so few left that the chances of us seeing one are almost null. It doesnt mean they arent out there.


As to the comment of why havent the aliens made contact? Perhaps they work on a completely different type of technology that we arent advanced enough to recieve. They may not have ever used radio waves. They are from other planets. Meaning they may not even have radio waves. You can never really know. I mean look at mars, An airplane couldnt fly there but but it could still very well contain life. Its like humans, we have many old technologies that we dont use anymore. And dont find economically fesable no matter how devoloped that technology might be or how reliable it may be, simply because we have newer and better technology. It coulkd simply be the same case for the aliens.

I dont necessarily believe they have visited us as we are an extremely small planet surrounded by trillions of other planets. BUT it isnt impossible.

[FireBallKY]

Laws of space and time are exactly that: laws. You can't move faster than light.

I'm not getting involved in this topic but I had to comment on the satement above...

Wouldn't "the speed of sound" fall under the category of Laws of space and time? Haven't we broken the sound barrier?...by multiple amounts even?

Okay, I have to get involved now...hehehe I can't say for sure if I'm a full believer that other intelligent life exists out there or not but I also don't dismiss the possibility. As far as space travel is concerned via light speed or whatever, scientists and engineers are continuously looking for a way to stabalize extremely volatile fuels for such purposes such as liquid oxygen. I can't remember if I read they are attempting to use it as a fuel for the space shuttle or they already are using it "successfully". Either way, given enough time, I DO believe that light travel will be conquered at some point.

OH yeah, and don't forget that the Earth used to be flat...until someone proved it to be otherwise. ;)

[flyingfish]

One problem that scientists face with advancing our view of things like time/space is the terrible rift between physics and quantum physics. I think once we can begin to bridge that rift we will be much closer to achieving interstellar space-flight. The math is so far beyond me - but I love studying this from a layman's point of view. Maybe math isn't as simple as we think! :thud:

[slipknottin]

Wouldn't "the speed of sound" fall under the category of Laws of space and time? Haven't we broken the sound barrier?...by multiple amounts even?

There was never any law that the speed of sound couldnt be broken, as we have known for years that light travels far faster than sound. It is however, a law that nothing can travel faster than light in a vacuum. Light in certain mediums can travel faster than light in a vacuum, and there are the theories about bending space time and whatnot that should make it theoretically possible to travel faster than light. But at the same time, you arent actually traveling faster than the speed of light, therefore, the laws of physics arent broken.

Its an incredibly complex set of theories and laws.

[125gJoe]

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Face it, we are a stellar backwater species that sucks at math. .... Why would any ETs even bother contacting us when its much easier to just observe us until we get our interstellar feces together?If we are being 'observed', maybe it's just for 'entertainment'... The "interstellar ant farm".
:D .. The blue terrarium in space.. They might say, "how long can they go until they need an air change?" Then smack us with a space pebble... :eek: :D

[Harlock]

If we are being 'observed', maybe it's just for 'entertainment'... The "interstellar ant farm".
:D
I had ant farms when I was a kid. They always died. You're not encouraging, Joe. ;)

[125gJoe]

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In any case, 126gJoe, do you have abetter picture than that - I know I can personally do a lot better in photoshop... heck, even in paintbrush... ;)

That photo was from 1962. Photoshop was not around. Too bad it was a blurry photo. There are more photos from astronauts, but here's a look at some old paintings.. Seems sightings have been going on for some time..

http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art/baptism1710camb.jpg
http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art/madona1.jpg
http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art/madona2.jpg
http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art/annunciation.jpg

Read up on these, and more paintings at this link:

http://www.dudeman.net/siriusly/ufo/art.shtml

These are real paintings/artwork and can be proven if some do not believe the website....

[NowherMan6]

If we are being 'observed', maybe it's just for 'entertainment'... The "interstellar ant farm".
:D .. The blue terrarium in space.. They might say, "how long can they go until they need an air change?" Then smack us with a space pebble... :eek: :D

Anyone ever see that South Park episode where the Earth gets "Cancelled"? The one where Earth is really one big reality TV show?

Anyway, the painting and drawings were made between 1000 and 200 years ago - if real, that's a long time to be just observing... :rolleyes:

[Timmain42]

Anyway, the painting and drawings were made between 1000 and 200 years ago - if real, that's a long time to be just observing... :rolleyes:Think about this: if you don't have wormholes or tesseracts or FTL, it's going to take a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time to reach another star system. You're either going to have to hibernate or have amazingly long lives... say 200-1000 year life spans. :D

[NowherMan6]

Well that's what I was saying earlier - I mean, without those things (wormholes etc.) it would take 200, 1000, 10000 or how every many years just to get here, then the same amount of time to get back. A lot of this just doesnt add up logically. With the frequency of the supposed sightings, that means there's been a concerted effort on their part to come here at staggered intervals. Why? This, of course, assumes that they leave their planet, come here, and go right back.

The other possibility is that they're just up there all the time, flying randomly around our solar system, close enough to make frequent stops, but we only rarely see them (because what are the odds that they just so happen to be there every time John Glenn et. al. gets launched into space?) So basically we have flying saucers constantly in orbit around our planet? Or do they wait until someone launches a space ship, then they come out to play?

These constant sightings don't make sense to me. The logistics don't make sense. It's easy to explain things when you don't have to REALLY explain them.

I'm not saying absolutely that they can't or don't exist, I just still have a lot of questions and doubts.

[125gJoe]

........ the painting and drawings were made between 1000 and 200 years ago - if real, that's a long time to be just observing... :rolleyes:Yes. they are real.

The word year to us is 365 'time intervals' to have our planet to rotate all around our star (the Sun).

What would that mean to some other stellar lifeform?

Their "year" could be 10,000 of our "years".....

Also, look at it this way, our lifespan may be just a couple of hours compared to "theirs". Their "time" and our concept of time would be different.

[Spikor]

ummm....
well first of all....isn't this a fish site?

do i believe there are aliens and all that? i think it is entirely possible. have they ever been here on earth? less likely, but possible. is it arrogant to think we are the only life forms out there or that we are the only planet with life? well, yeah...but who cares? lol

:OT:

[125gJoe]

ummm....
well first of all....isn't this a fish site?....
yeah...but who cares? lol
:OT:

You are in General Chit-Chat Forum:

General Chit-Chat
GCC is the place to talk about almost everything that doesnt have to do with aquariums. Lets keep it open and please abide by the rules at the top of the forum

That's why fish stuff isn't that common here in this forum....
:)

[reiverix]

Well I voted no.

While I believe that life is abundant in the universe, given it's vastness, I think intelligent life is few and far between. By intelligent I mean the ability to transmit messages via radio or whatever. The earth is 4.5 billion years old but 99.999% of it's history has been nothing more than lesser life forms. If the earth is an average life bearing planet then life itself would be quite common but intelligence is another ball game.

Plus the sheer distance between stars is enormous. Our galaxy is roughly 100,000 light years from one end to the other. Even if there is 1000 intelligent races in our galaxy, the chances of having a beer with them is not going to happen, even if we travel faster than light to meet at the interstellar pub. Maybe wormholes are the key to jump between the stars, but most watery planets circling a yellow dwarf are probably hosts to bacteria similar to like in our filters.

[125gJoe]

Well, at least the Poll Count got 45 votes (so far). I didn't really expect that... :D

[labont865]

I am honestly suprised at the amount of nos ther are. People actually believe we are alone. That completely boggles my mind. I hope the people that said no said it more for not thinking ETs have visited earth and not for that they dont think they exist.

[reiverix]

Well I voted no, but I stated the reasons why. There's a big difference between life (such as single celled organisms) and an intelligent alien race buzzing around planet earth.

[125gJoe]

I am honestly suprised at the amount of nos ther are. People actually believe we are alone. .....It can be hard to imagine just how large the universe is, and how many variables exist.

[FreddytheFish]

i think i believe in extraterrestrial life. i don't think that there is any super- intelligent life as portrayed in hollywood, the aliens i picture are as smart as animals. i don't know if i believe in alien spaceships, though, and i think that the rumor about area 51 having alien research is false, i think that rumor was planted by the U.S. government to cover up weapons testing

[125gJoe]

I posted this Poll out of curiosity. I welcome 'new' members to "vote" their opinion. It would be great to have postings at least partially stay on Topic. As the recent past shows there are Trolls out there that know exactly what they are doing. It's not hard to figure out.

To help benefit this area (GCC Forum), when something "smells Trolly" - remove the offensive post. If that doesn't work, lock it down; give the person a chance, and if that doesn't work, time to Ban that person(s)...

Anyone else care to Vote? :D

[OrionGirl]

Joe--do you want the poll re-opened so more can vote?

[125gJoe]

Yes, I think there are some new members that would want to vote. Thanks...