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tinkerbell0183
03-08-2005, 2:41 PM
I have a question that many people commonly ask me about their goldfish. Why is my goldfish floating upside down? They're still alive, they just are floating upside down and then swim back to normal. My sister used to have about 5 fancy goldfish (some were calico, ryukin, oranda, etc.) She just has 1 right now. I'm just curious what makes them do this? Is it normal? Is it a sign of something? I'm just curious.... as I'm trying to learn about fish. I unfortionately work at PetsMart and whenever I don't know something I come here. I also do animal research in my spare time because it's fun. Yeah by the way if you ever think about working for petsmart, reconsider. You most likely won't get paid enough for what you put up with. If you would like to know more about this happy little topic you can email me : tinkerbell012604@yahoo.com, you can AIM me : tinkerbell012604 and it is the same for yahoo messenger. Hope everyone has a great week.

NFR-22467-A
03-08-2005, 3:23 PM
ive heard things about swim bladder problems.... not really sure what it is, but my dad has a goldfish who has had this problem for years, and no matter what we try we cant fix it.... hell hang sideways or upside down for a long time, and well think hes dead, but we find thats hes perfectly healthy- has been like that for years, but he still loves eating and hanging out with his other goldfish pal in the tank....

fantail
03-09-2005, 4:33 PM
swimbladder problems are usually caused by gas build up in the intestines. Its a problem for the shortbodied rounded fancy gf as the intestines are crowded and the swimbladder is squashed into a smaller cavity. It can happen when they are fed dry flake food as this has the fish eating from the top causing the fish to take in air as well. also, dried food reacts with the gut causing gas to build so the fish is turned over or cant get off the gravel. the best thing to do is starve the fish for a couple of days and feed some peas that have been boiled and squashed to remove the shell. This clears the intestines of gas and helps restore the normal bacteria in the gut. usually fish prone to this shouldnt be fed flakes again and can be fed with a home made gel food or sinking pellets.

other reasons for sbd include high nitrate levels in the water and also deformities of the swim bladder and bacterial diseases. HTH

tinkerbell0183
03-10-2005, 5:31 PM
swimbladder problems are usually caused by gas build up in the intestines. Its a problem for the shortbodied rounded fancy gf as the intestines are crowded and the swimbladder is squashed into a smaller cavity. It can happen when they are fed dry flake food as this has the fish eating from the top causing the fish to take in air as well. also, dried food reacts with the gut causing gas to build so the fish is turned over or cant get off the gravel. the best thing to do is starve the fish for a couple of days and feed some peas that have been boiled and squashed to remove the shell. This clears the intestines of gas and helps restore the normal bacteria in the gut. usually fish prone to this shouldnt be fed flakes again and can be fed with a home made gel food or sinking pellets.

other reasons for sbd include high nitrate levels in the water and also deformities of the swim bladder and bacterial diseases. HTH
Thank you so much! I've been curious about this for quite some time and wow you are just chock full of knowledge huh? =D Thanks for your reply. Definately taught me something new today.

fantail
03-10-2005, 5:59 PM
glad someone appreciates it :)

NFR-22467-A
03-10-2005, 9:02 PM
good deal, ill have to go let my dad know that, thanks for the info

matthe_W_allace
03-15-2005, 6:37 PM
this happened to my black moor and he died a few days later. Obviously more severe than what ur fish had!

nvan2
03-15-2005, 6:43 PM
Maybe he just likes it better upside down.. Its not like fish really have all that much stuff to do :p

matthe_W_allace
03-15-2005, 6:53 PM
when hes swimming like hes drunk then u know hes got swim bladder disease

RanchuRick
04-02-2005, 10:00 AM
One of my gold fish sleeps upside down. I discovered that at 2am one night. He was just floating motionless, upside down. I thought he was dead. A slight tab on the class brought him back to life.

boroughmal
04-03-2005, 8:59 AM
Just a little blog to set things straight.
Goldfish are prone to swim bladder problems. True
Once a goldfish is infected does he die. No
Swim bladder desaeses are curable No , only in exeptional cases
Heavy food works to correct this. Wrong, It just changes the fishes equilibrium.(Ballast)
What can I do? Virtually nothing unless you get the desease in the first few weeks. after that the deformity is permenant.
How do I detect it?. THEY swim or go UPSIDE DOWN.
How do I cure it? Pond goldfish treatment Interpet 2626 code
Apply as soon as you notice symptoms It IS A Desease and is internal.
How do I avoid it? Use Biosafe or a simular product It costs very little to prevent

Goldfish are hardy but not immune Bacteria attack from inside as well as outside.
Reagards

N8DOGG
04-05-2005, 11:04 AM
I have a question that many people commonly ask me about their goldfish. Why is my goldfish floating upside down? They're still alive, they just are floating upside down and then swim back to normal. My sister used to have about 5 fancy goldfish (some were calico, ryukin, oranda, etc.) She just has 1 right now. I'm just curious what makes them do this? Is it normal? Is it a sign of something? I'm just curious.... as I'm trying to learn about fish. I unfortionately work at PetsMart and whenever I don't know something I come here. I also do animal research in my spare time because it's fun. .
Mainly because people don't keep Goldfish in the proper conditions. Trying to tell them that 10 GF in a bowl is a bad idea won't make your job any eayser. Tell them that GF can and will get up to a FOOT (some will stay just under). Most people think that GF are a good starter fish and they are not, well if you want them to live and thrive, then they area not. Even is people don't want to listen or even care enough about your their fish, inform them on everything you know about them before you sell the fish. Tank req, adult size, tank mates, and such. At least this way when the fish dies they will know why. Also if people become educated in proper tank size this may help sell larger tanks

Stargazer
04-14-2005, 9:58 PM
I agree with Fantail ,
I love my goldfish, they and a few books have taught me ,that floating pellets do not agree with all of them.
the Goldfish with the short compact rounded bodys are more prone to bladder problems one of them being gulping air while eating floating food ,I have had 2 swimming on their sides or upside down by feeding them floating food,After reading up on this , I switched to sinking granules and veggies , nothing that they will have to gulp air with as they eat and I have not had any more problems. I even had one look as though he threw out it's intestines and died, at the time I was feeding floating food,and I still feel as though that was the floating food problem.

Just my fish notes
Stargazer

bblboy54
06-20-2005, 11:53 PM
Im glad I found this post. Even tho I knew some of it before I didnt know about the peas or even starving them for a couple of days.

I do have a question tho. When I bought my goldfish I bought flake food.... fed them for a day and then ran into most of the information in this post. That can of food is still sitting at my parents house today.... after the first day I bought sinking pellets and I have been feeding them that along with some brine shrimp every now and then. The thing is that these guys never seem to want to stop eating. I know it is typical of goldfish to always eat even when they get full but the thing about these guys is they both will constantly go up to the top and gulp as if there was food there.... I know that they are taking in air but I have no way to stop them. So even tho I am going to try to keep them from eating for a couple of days, is it really going to help if they are still going to go up to the top and gulp at nothing except air?

Any advice is appriciated.

Thanks!

mvigor
06-21-2005, 8:32 AM
I also do animal research in my spare time because it's fun.

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TKOS
06-21-2005, 9:23 AM
Im glad I found this post. Even tho I knew some of it before I didnt know about the peas or even starving them for a couple of days.

I do have a question tho. When I bought my goldfish I bought flake food.... fed them for a day and then ran into most of the information in this post. That can of food is still sitting at my parents house today.... after the first day I bought sinking pellets and I have been feeding them that along with some brine shrimp every now and then. The thing is that these guys never seem to want to stop eating. I know it is typical of goldfish to always eat even when they get full but the thing about these guys is they both will constantly go up to the top and gulp as if there was food there.... I know that they are taking in air but I have no way to stop them. So even tho I am going to try to keep them from eating for a couple of days, is it really going to help if they are still going to go up to the top and gulp at nothing except air?

Any advice is appriciated.

Thanks!


Fish gulping at the surface is usually a sign of low oxygen in the water and not hunger. This is either that the water is too warm and there is not enough aeration or else the nitrite levels are far too high. How big is the tank, what are the nitrite levels, what is the temp, what sort of filter do you use?