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shadrac
07-25-2005, 1:31 AM
ok iv got a DIy Co2 with the sugar-water and yeast. and it working and all but i was wondering is there other ways of doing this. like could you use viniger and baking soda, or even just put alkaselser in the bottle?

Riso-chan
07-25-2005, 1:41 AM
Not sure about using other ingredients with the DIY method. I'm going to use Flourish Excel from Seachem (liquid fert), it's a natural source of carbon that's easier for plants to absorb. You can use that alone or with the DIY setup. Good Luck!

Mykayel
07-25-2005, 9:47 AM
For the cost, I don't think you can beat sugar and yeast for CO2 production. Other methods will work but cost a lot more in the end.

Kasakato
07-25-2005, 9:52 AM
Yeast and sugar is the easyist and cheepest solution out there.

Fish_3456
07-25-2005, 9:00 PM
Finally I got my diy co2 system finish... but I forgot one thing in the supplies list... yeast, yep the most important thing. So can Alka-Seltzer or the other things work for the mean time? Or should I just run to neighborhood wal mart and get some?

Kasakato
07-25-2005, 9:13 PM
What did you forget? All you need is yeast, water, and sugar. Sorry I didnt get it.

Fish_3456
07-25-2005, 9:15 PM
i forgot the yeast, i got the water and the sugar. lol

Kasakato
07-25-2005, 9:17 PM
LoL. The MOST important stuff.

Fish_3456
07-25-2005, 9:18 PM
yeah, so wat other home made stuff can make co2?

Kasakato
07-25-2005, 9:21 PM
Nothing other safe for fish that comes to mind.

Fish_3456
07-25-2005, 9:26 PM
Umm. I’ll go ask my neighbors if I can borrow some :)

Kasakato
07-25-2005, 9:31 PM
LoL. Its only a bit :D

esworp
07-25-2005, 9:56 PM
Look in the CO2 sticky for the 'Jello' recipie. OMHO, the jello setup works for a longer, more stable digestive burntime. and it's colorful and smells a lot more like prison booze :p

Kasakato
07-25-2005, 10:06 PM
Iv used the Jello method and wasn't too happy. My C02 levels stayed really low, and I didn't get too much action. Without it I got longer running time and more C02. Maybe its just my tank.

Fish_3456
07-25-2005, 10:53 PM
Yay, i got it to start working. My friend told to ask you guys if this method would work, thats what he's using for his co2 system. http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/8348/pump16mg.jpg ..lol im good at drawing!!

Kasakato
07-25-2005, 11:06 PM
HaHa, nice fish :D

You need a check valve in the line some where. This will prevent water from entering the bottle. Also a gas separator and bubble counter (not shown in my pic) can be used to just let the C02 into the tank. The C02 line should be put into the intake of the filter. The impeller will mash up the C02. And from the output water mixed with C02 will come out. The pump also should be placed at the bottom of the tank to let the gas have more time to mix.

http://img346.imageshack.us/my.php?image=co24ia.png

Fish_3456
07-25-2005, 11:10 PM
Well at least he has some of it right, I will tell him right away to get a check valve and move it down... lol yeah it was a good picture, yours as well.

Kasakato
07-25-2005, 11:16 PM
Here's the gas separation/bubble counter. The C02 enters threw the cap and it changes into a hard plastic tube in the bottle. The bottle should be 1/2 filled with water with the tube 1"+ under water. The gas should go threw the tube, into the water so you can count how many bubbles you are getting, and into the bottle. The output is just a tube sticking out. The gas can enter this and go the the pump.

http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bubble4ns.png


I just thought that if you have the C02 directly into the pump, it may be too strong a pull out the water in the bubble counter and the mixture. If possible I would leave a 1" gap or so, so the bubbles can just rise into the filter.

Fish_3456
07-25-2005, 11:20 PM
Ok thanks, i love counting bubbles :D

Mr. Gone
09-09-2006, 8:55 PM
so how does the yeast muck get in there anyway?
if its just from being shaken or overturned, couldn't the same happen with the water in the separator? (though it would be a weaker mix of yeast muck)

epicfish
09-10-2006, 12:14 AM
lol, this thread has been dead for more than a year...please check the dates of the threads before posting! Thanks. =)

Mr. Gone
09-10-2006, 5:49 PM
lol, this thread has been dead for more than a year...please check the dates of the threads before posting! Thanks. =)


so???? you could post that, but not an answer to the question? i know its an old thread, what i didn't know is that it was such an apparent break in board etiquette to add to a thread where my question pertained rather than clutter up the board with redundant threads.

if i'm not supposed to post on an old thread it should either be locked or at the very least it shouldn't bump back to the top of the thread list.
see, i assumed that it bumped back to the top of the list so that people could see it, despite it being an old thread.

honestly, any other board i've been on encourages people to use the search function; and to post in threads that have already been started rather than ask the same questions over and over.