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125gJoe
10-28-2005, 2:31 AM
Link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47066
Doesn't surprise me in the least.......
She looks so much happier in the unaltered photo.
sublime1184
10-28-2005, 7:56 AM
Does anyone see the tail in the background?
I always get her mixed with omarosa, I guess cause they are both advocates for peace...but still...ack!
mvigor
10-28-2005, 9:51 AM
The article talks to Photoshop users who don't know what they are talking about. It looks to me like someone just selected the face, or maybe even parts of the face, and then ran "Auto Levels" on it. It wasn't deliberate.
tomm10
10-28-2005, 10:03 AM
The article talks to Photoshop users who don't know what they are talking about. It looks to me like someone just selected the face, or maybe even parts of the face, and then ran "Auto Levels" on it. It wasn't deliberate.
I've been using Photoshop everyday in my line of work for over 9 years. There is no way that was an accident. I looked at both photos and the adjustment that would have been necessary to change the gray color of her eyes inthe photos to the glaring white eyes in the retouched photo would have brightened the whole image to the point of being unrecognizable.
Whoever adjusted the image did so by selecting the area only around her eyes. The rest of the coloring and brightness in the photo is largely unchanged. Now, that's as much as I can deduce froms seeing the photos. As to whether the person who retouched the photo was ordered to do so by their supervisor or did so on their own is another story.
LOL....it sure was on purpose....lol.....and I bet it was some Republican hating journalist...(is there any other kind???)... just having a little fun....knowing full well his boss wouldn't mind....
Holly9937
10-28-2005, 12:11 PM
I think she looks pretty darn scary in both....
What I am suprised by is that they even alter newspaper photos!!! I mean come on, I know that all the models in the magazines are airbrushed to nothing, but we have to do it to politicians too?!?!?
tomm10
10-28-2005, 1:01 PM
I think she looks pretty darn scary in both....
What I am suprised by is that they even alter newspaper photos!!! I mean come on, I know that all the models in the magazines are airbrushed to nothing, but we have to do it to politicians too?!?!?
I thought the original was quite unflattering as well.
As to altering photos, almost all photos are altered between the camera and the presentation. When it was film cameras that editing was done in a darkroom. Now it can be done, digitally, on the computer and quickly. Generally, the touchups are benign and are done to improve lighting or contrast simply to increase the photo's readibility.
More than occasionally though the photos are manipulated for some editorial purpose one way or the other. I'm reminded of the saying "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear."
T
nursie
10-28-2005, 1:33 PM
They do that kind of stuff for subliminal manipualtion all the time. There was a magazine that had OJ on it during the trial and they darkened it...made him look eviler.
I read a book on subliminal seduction in marketing once..very interesting.
Your booze ads...the ice cubes in the glasses...there is usually something interesting going on there, like couples embracing or more. The positioning of ads in magazines...newspapers...these things are not just done by accident.
here's a link to a book about it...I read a different one, but this stuff has been going on for years
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/0974264008/ref=dp_proddesc_0/104-5053178-1663921?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155
Those are not Betty Davis Eyes.
tomm10
10-28-2005, 3:52 PM
You know, if you're going to go that far trying to make her look like a demon, you might as well go all the way!
http://www.tomandjaime.com/images/condylaser.jpg
125gJoe
10-28-2005, 3:58 PM
WOW!
What would the 'blue states' think?
:D
LOL....well, since there are ALOT more RED states than Blue....who CARES !! :D
FreddytheFish
10-28-2005, 5:25 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
DEMON POLITIAN!! AWAY!!! AWAY YOU MINION OF SATAN!!!! TAXES!!! NO, PLEASE, NOT TAXES!!!! GET BACK!!! (scuffle, followed by cry of triumph) NO PLEASE, AAAGHHH (gargling sound)
It seemed as if all hope was gone, then DaDaDaDaaa! Super Priest! (Super Priest Flys in with Holy Water Squirt Gun)
Demonic Voice: Nooooooooo!
Super Priest: Die you demonic spawn of Satan! Die! In the name of the Father, and of the Son-
Demon- Noooo!! I'm melting!!
(hissing sound, then Gollum flies in with a cape on)
Gollum- The Preciousss!
Gollum- They Stoles it from Us! Nasty Hobbitses!
Gollum- Jump in the Pool, Its nice and cool, fishies so sweeeet!
Gollum- The Precioussssss!!
(Gollum flies away. The End)
They do that kind of stuff for subliminal manipualtion all the time. There was a magazine that had OJ on it during the trial and they darkened it...made him look eviler.
I read a book on subliminal seduction in marketing once..very interesting.
Your booze ads...the ice cubes in the glasses...there is usually something interesting going on there, like couples embracing or more. The positioning of ads in magazines...newspapers...these things are not just done by accident.
here's a link to a book about it...I read a different one, but this stuff has been going on for years
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/product-description/0974264008/ref=dp_proddesc_0/104-5053178-1663921?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155
Subliminal advertising is a myth: http://www.snopes.com/business/hidden/popcorn.asp
Sure they can appeal to our biases which are so ingrained we hardly notice, but the whole concept of subliminal advertising and flashing commands to quickly for us to notice was based on a falsified study. (You will believe me - you will not argue)
LOL....it sure was on purpose....lol.....and I bet it was some Republican hating journalist...(is there any other kind???)... just having a little fun....knowing full well his boss wouldn't mind....
Yes, there is another kind just watch Fox for proof.
125gJoe
10-28-2005, 8:42 PM
..see next post...
125gJoe
10-29-2005, 1:32 AM
New Topic...
Talk about "subliminal messages"..! ..And more...
Link: http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60019
nursie
10-30-2005, 12:29 AM
Chill...the books I've read on the topic are more recent than the one you quote. The next glossy magazine ad you see that features booze, for example poured into a class with ice. Look real close...and what kinds of things are you seeing in the ice? Couples embracing are common...and other things. A lot of it is based on the sex sells principle.
centralharbor
10-31-2005, 4:04 AM
that pic creeped me out
ashdavid
10-31-2005, 7:46 PM
I wouldn't want to meet her in a dark alley!!! :devil:
mvigor
11-01-2005, 10:33 AM
Whoever adjusted the image did so by selecting the area only around her eyes. The rest of the coloring and brightness in the photo is largely unchanged. Now, that's as much as I can deduce froms seeing the photos. As to whether the person who retouched the photo was ordered to do so by their supervisor or did so on their own is another story.
That's exactly my point. They didn't want to contrast out the entire photo, they just wanted the whites of the eyes to be white. They did select just the face and/or eye area, and then contrasted that until the "whites" were white again. The original photo had a gray washed out "eye white", so when they adjusted it, they lost some of the transition area of eye color.
They were obviously not deliberately giving her devil eyes.
tomm10
11-01-2005, 11:06 AM
That's exactly my point. They didn't want to contrast out the entire photo, they just wanted the whites of the eyes to be white. They did select just the face and/or eye area, and then contrasted that until the "whites" were white again. The original photo had a gray washed out "eye white", so when they adjusted it, they lost some of the transition area of eye color.
They were obviously not deliberately giving her devil eyes.
When you brighten an image to bring back out the whites you do not flood the area with white. True whites rarely exist. Your teeth are not bright white no matter how many Crest Whitening Strips you use and the whites of your eyes are certainly not pure white. So, there is no need to artificially make teeth or eyes white. You may, at most seek to isolate those areas and brighten them slightly but only to improve contrast, not to make them white.
This photograph was manipulated by selecting the whites of the eyes and flooding them with white rather than by increasing brightness and contrast. It was absolutely, without question, an intentional act in my professional opinion. I took the original photo myself and optimized it for contrast and color and got nothing like the image they presented.
Roan Art
11-01-2005, 11:21 AM
I see they say that Unsharp Mask did that, eh? Huh.
Not by itself it didn't. Try this:
Take the original photo, put into Photoshop, Filter, Sharpen, Unsharp Mask and set the following:
Amount 183%
Radius 5.2 pixels
Threshold 42 levels
Reduce the image to 180x142 so it's the same size as the altered one.
Copy in the unaltered one again and compare all three of them.
In the one just changed, the entire photo is sharper, but there are areas that Unsharp definitely made lighter. Those areas are the lips, eyes and earrings.
The AP altered one has also been sharpened and lightened, but the eyes are white -- WAY lighter than the lips. It's NOT balanced and Unsharp does not work that way. Definitely not.
Those eyes were changed separately and deliberately.
Just my 2 cents
Oh, and I think my alteration looks much better than APs. Mine just makes her look pissed off :)
Roan