good/ bad algea?

[pufferbob]

what is the appearance of good and bad algea?

i have a cycled 29 brackish that about 1 month ago i added live aggrogite to. i have since lost a couple of fish (weakend and fell to the power of intakes), now my gsp is black, not eatting and lying down (not his usual behaviour by far). tonight i did a 1/3 water change which did help his color for about an hour.... now he is back to black... i have even tried tempting him with ghost shrimp, those are hiding from the figure 8 by sitting on the gsp's head...

upon a thourough inspection i found my first colony of algea since adding the new media, a small light green/brown on glass (looks like a normal algea)... then found a kind of light brown kinda clear silky fur algea growing on an ornament and only in on piece of this multi piece ornament... on this piece there are 4 small patches totaling no more than one inch in size combimed...

anyone out there know thier algeas? please help!!!! i cannot afford to loose any more puffers!

[LittlePuff]

What is your salinity, ammonia, nitrites, nitrates?
Is there anything else in the tank with him, the fig 8 and ghosts?
How big is the GSP?

I doubt algae is the problem. Do you have a phosphate test?


Kim

[pufferbob]

What is your salinity, ammonia, nitrites, nitrates?
Is there anything else in the tank with him, the fig 8 and ghosts?
How big is the GSP?

I doubt algae is the problem. Do you have a phosphate test?


Kim

gsp is 1 1/2 to 2 inches... sg = .015

i had water tested today...
ph 8.0
amonia = low/ not tracable
nitrite= spkied
nitrate= low
phosphate= high

i had a fig 8 die in a bad manner a few days ago, i found him w/i 8 hours stuck to intake, which apparently caused a amonia spike, which is now recycling...

i changed 5 g today with ro given to me from lfs and will change another 5 in morn... they also gave me a phosphate reducer subsatnce.

the gsp today has cloudy eyes which are bulging so i am treating with myracine 2.

i have decided to pull out of brackish completely and go full marine to help save with some of the brackish hell... after the fish get better, changes will be made...

[RTR]

If "spiked" means high nitrite, that is what is injuring your fish. BTW, numbers mean a lot more than words on test results. The tank is not cycled. Massive repeated water changes are needed until the cycle is established.

[pufferbob]

the tank WAS cycled. i had an unfortunate death which sent it through a recycle. because the death sent an amonia spike... after an amonia spike, you get a nitrite spike... because of a nitrite spike, i will have a nitrate spike... i am already conducting w.c's to correct the problem... day 1 i did 30%, yesterday i did 15%, today i did 55%.. words are very meaningful when this is what you are being told by someone else cunducting a stick test... today there will be a wet test conducted where i will have numbers... i am not "new" to water tending and know what is happening as far as chemicals... i just happen to not at this time have my own test kit which i am in process of aquireing... note this thread was a question of algea not water makeup.

[platypus]

pufferbob, please let your chum platypus know that she has been banned for two personal attacks on members, in violation of the TOS she agreed to when she joined. OG

[RTR]

Ammonia spikes (meaning any detectable ammonia shown by a reliable test kit) promote algae blooms.

Words are unfortunately not meaningful when titers are important.

[OrionGirl]

'Cycled' is not a fact, it's an ongoing process. The fact that the tank had an imbalance and measurable ammonia means it is not 'cycled', since by definition, and fully cycled tabnk is capable of processing the ammonia produced by the occupants.

Water conditions and algae are as intimately tied as fish health and water conditions. Trying to speak of one without addressing the other is like trying to talk about rain without discussing clouds.

[mark.]

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i have decided to pull out of brackish completely and go full marine to help save with some of the brackish hell... after the fish get better, changes will be made...[/QUOTE]


I find blackish fish realy hardy,and easy to keep.did you say you put live rock in the tank?I dont think live rock will live in a blackish low salt.if you did it probably the rock is dieying causeing the spike.

[Puffer Princess]

RTR please stop giving out the wrong information... Nitrites and phosphates promote algae blooms... Not the amonia itself, thanks

[RTR]

Puffer Princess - just where did you get that information? You are seriously mistaken. Perhaps you need to do a bit of research into valid tank biology information. I'd suggest that you start with:

http://www.barrreport.com/

http://fins.actwin.com/aquatic-plants/

It is best to be somewhat sure of what you say, especially when it is your first post on a forum.

[pufferbob]

to clearify for everybody.... as i have listed befor, my sg is at .015, not low very livable for lr and ls, even though i am not using lr, only ls.
the tank had been cycled..... and again... the tank was cycled.... i had an unfortunate death which caused a spike... any cycled tank which has a death (in night so not noticed for up to 8 hours) can and probobly will have this same problem. it was stable befor... almost any tank will not very well house a dead "occupant". this is why i say "recycle"...
and again again.... and even again.... i was asking about is there bad algea as oppssed to good... differences and whatnot...
admin; you may consider notifying my "chum" to being banned as i have no "chums" on this or any other board... i am here for good and relevant information, not friendships...

the nitrite and nitrate are still high even after conducting a 55% water change today... everything else is low to not tracable (words once again...)

you want numbers.... 3.3/135

words mean alot.....

[LittlePuff]

Your nitrates should be around 20. You need to do a massive water change. If the 135 is your nitrate #, that is what's killing your fish. Measure your tap water to see if that's the source of the nitrates. If so, get to a grocery store and get spring water to use (quickly before you lose everyone)

Kim

[pufferbob]

the tap is not the source... i am thinking my bed and filter are trapping bad water... or something to the effect... in the past 4 days i have wc 55 gallons on a 29 gallon tank... and nitrites and nitrates still spiked.... tested water again today... still same numbers.... nothing has changed... my remaining fish are now living in a hospital and have been for 2 days... no there is nothing dead in tank... i have turned over bed a few times for the past few days... today, i scrapped all the water, throghly cleaned filter and am starting new... 100%.... i am doing a fishless cycle with shrimp.

[LittlePuff]

I don't think the bed or filter are the problem. How old is you test kit and which one are you using?

Kim

[pufferbob]

i am going to lfs for tests....

as far as the bed or filter... it is the bed, upon yet even more research i have learned more about the live sand bed... there are only 2 ways of going about it and apparently, i am not... one is a shallow bed of only 1/2 inch, other is 4 - 6 inches of bed... nothing in between, the in between area is a dead zone which will allow for toxic gas to exchange into water... this later method is known as dsb or deep sand bed.
the more common thought (which apparently leads to many problems in marine aquaria) is lbs per gallon.... this method is a great method for live rock, but is highly inaccurate for sand...
and yes, these methods can be used by the brackish aquariast... as long as you run high brack. sg must be above .010 and to be safe and allow for fluctuation, .015. being that i have pulled my system up from brak to marine, that is no longer an issue for me now...

[OrionGirl]

'pufferbob, 'pufferprincess', etc...Bu-bye. Having little chums come in to play nasty with other members of this forum is not allowed. You want help? Please, go elsewhere. Attacking our members is not acceptable.

[luckybob611]

'pufferbob, 'pufferprincess', etc...Bu-bye. Having little chums come in to play nasty with other members of this forum is not allowed. You want help? Please, go elsewhere. Attacking our members is not acceptable.
og (adim).... this is pufferbob....

i don't know why i have been banned....
i am not playing nasty...i don't have anyone playing nasty... i don't have time for games.... if you look into all of my posts you will see what i am here for... i have done nothing to anybody deserving banned.... i am here for information... i don't have time for anything else as you may be able to see by my state of emergency.... i already have to travel to get to an internet cafe to be able to use the internet which takes more time than i have.... i am trying to save my fish... nothing else... i don't know who you are trying to get rid of... but it is not me! please unblock my account so i may go back to learning from people who mave have had similar experiences and trying to save my fish...... this is not cheap or easy and i need good help...

[OrionGirl]

Someone in your household had created 2 new accounts, same IP as yours, and attacked members that are not agreeing with you. Figure out who it is, and resolve 'their' problem, or I will ban this account as well. If I see no further 'problem' posters from your IP, I will remove the ban. Otherwise, Bu-bye.

[luckybob611]

again... i use an internet cafe... i have no computer at my house.... i use the same computer everytime i come up here (as long as it is avalible)... i don't know any other people up here except the employees who run this place and as far as i know, they don't mess with this fishy stuff.....

[OrionGirl]

Regretfully, words won't cut it. Start clearing out cookies and history on the machine you're using, and if no more 'problem' posts related to just your posts occur, then I will consider lifting the ban.