A while ago we bought a Gourami from the LFS we have issues with. They replaced it with some plants but the Gourami had a disease we failed to catch upon purchasing that quickly developed into a major tank disaster. We lost a few fish and waited about 2 weeks to stabilize the tank. Now everything seemed fine until yesterday.
Yesterday we purchased 3 clown loaches, which seem to be adjusting well. Here is the tank specs and I've got a few ideas as to what could be causing the issues now.
4 Zebra Danios
1 Swordtail
1 platy
3 clown loaches
1 apongeton
3 Red Ludwigia
As of today 1 anubias, 1 driftwood w/ java moss, 1 mondo grass..
30gallon,
ph 7.5
temp 79' (too high?)
0 ammonia
0 nitrites
10 ppm nitrates
Haven't done any water changes in a week as things seem stable.. There was a bit of dead plant matter on the filter and on the biopad which we rinsed in tank water, we use 1 whisper 40 and 1 elite 10 submersible, 150watt heater
The infection that the Gourami carried was visible as two small dull spots which scabbed over and fungused after one day in the tank, two days later it was dead. We didn't have time to find an open LFS after we noticed the fungus as it was a weekend and (our fault) we were quite busy.
The gouramis disease killed 1 swordtail, 1 zebra danio, and 1 columbian shark. The columbian shark was probably stressed to begin with as this tank was too small for it and as bad as it sounds I am glad it passed as it was a poor investment.
There is slate in the tank which we ran water tests on before putting in, the ph has remained absolutely stable throughout this entire disaster. Ammonia has never spiked, although the fish nazis at the LFS (who hate us for not taking their advice such as: its ammonia. yet tests prior to and after bringing water to them showed 0. I know this test is not old as it registered ammonia during cycling fine. also they advised us against doing regular water changes during fishy cycle as this would "get rid of beneficial bactera" something i have been told is bunkus).
The swordtail looks fine. It was eating a few days ago, very active, very normal behaviour. Now it sits near the bottom and sulks, no clamped gills (the other fish showed this while stressed during fishy cycle. not happening here) looks like it is sleeping, like how sometimes the fish will sit at the bottom and rest when the light goes off..
On a side note, the fish nazis were very mocking and rude when we went in, although we have been nothing but polite about the problem and not even asked for compensation although their disease obviously caused much of our heartache. Today I noticed they are treating several tanks! Yet somehow this is our fault.. no fish dies in 3 days from stress, sorry I can't see that. We've never had Ich, we've never had any problems before that Gourami. If the fish were stressed you'd expect outward signs of illness PRIOR to the Gourami dying... Maybe it was the change in PH? hmm, but he KNOWS our ph, why not warn us? anyway. They made up for it, and no soup for us anymore. ever.
Any advice? I do NOT want to treat for something I am unsure of. I don't want to unduly stress the fish when unnecessary!
We used to add salt on the advice of the fish nazis, but ppl here say not to. I trust these forums more than them. We have found another nonbigbox LFS to shop at where the staff are very friendly, knowledgable, and eager! Also the one bigbox we shop at has a great manager who couldn't be better really. Knows the fish section like the back of his hand and has great advice for us!
The sword was preggers when we got her and she gave birth, unfortunately she only ended up providing live food... Whats going on?!?
I should point out we are noobs, so if we are wrong we're more than ready to admit it.
Yesterday we purchased 3 clown loaches, which seem to be adjusting well. Here is the tank specs and I've got a few ideas as to what could be causing the issues now.
4 Zebra Danios
1 Swordtail
1 platy
3 clown loaches
1 apongeton
3 Red Ludwigia
As of today 1 anubias, 1 driftwood w/ java moss, 1 mondo grass..
30gallon,
ph 7.5
temp 79' (too high?)
0 ammonia
0 nitrites
10 ppm nitrates
Haven't done any water changes in a week as things seem stable.. There was a bit of dead plant matter on the filter and on the biopad which we rinsed in tank water, we use 1 whisper 40 and 1 elite 10 submersible, 150watt heater
The infection that the Gourami carried was visible as two small dull spots which scabbed over and fungused after one day in the tank, two days later it was dead. We didn't have time to find an open LFS after we noticed the fungus as it was a weekend and (our fault) we were quite busy.
The gouramis disease killed 1 swordtail, 1 zebra danio, and 1 columbian shark. The columbian shark was probably stressed to begin with as this tank was too small for it and as bad as it sounds I am glad it passed as it was a poor investment.
There is slate in the tank which we ran water tests on before putting in, the ph has remained absolutely stable throughout this entire disaster. Ammonia has never spiked, although the fish nazis at the LFS (who hate us for not taking their advice such as: its ammonia. yet tests prior to and after bringing water to them showed 0. I know this test is not old as it registered ammonia during cycling fine. also they advised us against doing regular water changes during fishy cycle as this would "get rid of beneficial bactera" something i have been told is bunkus).
The swordtail looks fine. It was eating a few days ago, very active, very normal behaviour. Now it sits near the bottom and sulks, no clamped gills (the other fish showed this while stressed during fishy cycle. not happening here) looks like it is sleeping, like how sometimes the fish will sit at the bottom and rest when the light goes off..
On a side note, the fish nazis were very mocking and rude when we went in, although we have been nothing but polite about the problem and not even asked for compensation although their disease obviously caused much of our heartache. Today I noticed they are treating several tanks! Yet somehow this is our fault.. no fish dies in 3 days from stress, sorry I can't see that. We've never had Ich, we've never had any problems before that Gourami. If the fish were stressed you'd expect outward signs of illness PRIOR to the Gourami dying... Maybe it was the change in PH? hmm, but he KNOWS our ph, why not warn us? anyway. They made up for it, and no soup for us anymore. ever.
Any advice? I do NOT want to treat for something I am unsure of. I don't want to unduly stress the fish when unnecessary!
We used to add salt on the advice of the fish nazis, but ppl here say not to. I trust these forums more than them. We have found another nonbigbox LFS to shop at where the staff are very friendly, knowledgable, and eager! Also the one bigbox we shop at has a great manager who couldn't be better really. Knows the fish section like the back of his hand and has great advice for us!
The sword was preggers when we got her and she gave birth, unfortunately she only ended up providing live food... Whats going on?!?
I should point out we are noobs, so if we are wrong we're more than ready to admit it.