Filtration advice?

Jay-Stew

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Hi all, i have setup a 65 G tank and was wondering if I could improve the filtration anyway? I use a eheim 2213 and a aquaclear 50 powerhaed at the opposite end for circulation. I am fishy cycling right now ( 5 rummies, 4 blue ram's) I want to put some Discus and tertra's in later. It has been suggested that I should have used a larger Canister in the tank. I also have 5 plant's in it right now with more to come soon. Does anyone have any sugestion's to improve filtration or is it fine?
 
I am no expert but I don'y think that blue rams are a good choice for a fishy cycle, they are very sensative and need clean water.
In terms of your 2213, it will filter up to 66 gallons, your right at its peak. I have never kept discus but I know they need warm and clean water, I would have stepped up on the filter but maybe someone can jump on this thread to maybe agree or disagree with me on this.
 
Thanks, any suggestion's to add-on to existing setup? my fish guy said the ram's would be OK. the water had been cycling for 2 weeks before, with rummie's inside. the more i read the more I think I could have waited, hopefully they do OK.
 
Nice pics. And setup. are you broke yet?
 
YuccaPatrol said:
I don't know if you are opposed to HOB type power filters, but you could get an Aquaclear 110 that would seriously increase filtration for not a lot of cash. I see them online for only $35 or so.

Thats a good suggestion, HOB filters are inexpensive and good for adding dry macro nutrients into as well.

You shouldn't add fish into a tank that has already started to cycle, reason being that the ammonium and nitrite that have built up is toxic to fish that have been introduced to as apposed to the fish that have been in the tank since day one of the cycling process because they have been slowly aclimated to the toxins.
Here is a link that may help you understand the cycling process of a new tank, it has a page 2 that shows a good chart or guide.

Good luck,
Terry.
 
I would reccomend the Emperor 400. They are less than $40 at bigals and have 2 great big biowheels. You would have lots of options with extra media baskets and a total of 4 media slots plus the 2 biowheels. You could use some chemical filtration like carbon or zeolite or a extra biofiltration like Seachem's Matrix. I've also heard of ppl modifing the extra media cartridge with a micron fine particle sponge to really polish the water. With the strong flow and spraybars for oxygenating the water you could get rid of the powerhead. Many ppl use the cannister and HOB filter approach. You can clean one really good and still have the other's biocolony safe and running during the entire process. Good luck.
 
Dolfan said:
I would reccomend the Emperor 400. They are less than $40 at bigals and have 2 great big biowheels. You would have lots of options with extra media baskets and a total of 4 media slots plus the 2 biowheels. You could use some chemical filtration like carbon or zeolite or a extra biofiltration like Seachem's Matrix. I've also heard of ppl modifing the extra media cartridge with a micron fine particle sponge to really polish the water. With the strong flow and spraybars for oxygenating the water you could get rid of the powerhead. Many ppl use the cannister and HOB filter approach. You can clean one really good and still have the other's biocolony safe and running during the entire process. Good luck.

Yep, that just about covers it...

A HOB power filter would be your best option for polishing the water and adding some additional biological filtration. You can't beat them for price, ease of maintenance, and gallons per hour, especially when used in tandem with a cannister.
 
Hi , THanks for all the help, I think I will try an HOB filter to improve the filtration. I really wqish I bought the bigger filter in the first place....
 
it is my understanding that Discus need VERY VERY VERY clean water so you shoudl have MEGA filtration.

Alot of discus owners use no subsubstrate to help keep the water clean.

anyway... good luck.
 
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