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latazyo
12-03-2002, 2:04 PM
in my 20g (check sig) my neons have ich

the loaches aren't showing any signs of ich though

when I treat the neons, will the loaches be safe?

mwood322
12-03-2002, 4:21 PM
If you're talking clown loaches I treated full strength with Maracide twice with no problems. THe loaches are all fine now, and seemed fine during treatment.

--Mia

latazyo
12-03-2002, 6:08 PM
well, I took another look today and now my KUHLI loaches have the ich as well as the neons

this sucks a$$, will I be able to treat them?

JamisonBWolsh
12-03-2002, 6:14 PM
I believe clown loaches are scaleless. This mean you cant use the reg. medication for ICH. When I first started 3 of my fish had it. I couldnt use the normal stuff cause I have scaleless fish (elephant nose..various others). There is a medications that does treat ICH made especially for scaleless fish (it does cost like double though). It works great. follow the directions and you will not have ich any longer..

latazyo
12-03-2002, 10:10 PM
alright, I do NOT own clown loaches, I only have golden and half banded kuhli loaches

anyways, I bought "rid ich" and I just put about half of the dosage in the tank along with about a 3/8 water change,

we'll see what happens

JamisonBWolsh
12-03-2002, 11:51 PM
I hope your loaches survive....if they are scaless Rid ich could be VERY bad for them

latazyo
12-03-2002, 11:53 PM
I hope so too, but I don't know anything else to do and I had to do something before the ick kills them

JamisonBWolsh
12-03-2002, 11:58 PM
Just found out. LOACHES are SCALELESS. Thats why they make Ich treatment for SCALELESS fish Like I suggested earlier. IF your loaches survive, then all the good. But most likely that medication is doing more harm then good...

latazyo
12-04-2002, 1:40 AM
there was not an ich treatment for scaleless fish at my petco, the woman there said she didnt' know what to do, she suggested a salt dip, but wasn't sure what else I could do

she said that the brand I got would be the safest choice, but still a risk for the loaches

I only used about .5-.75 dosage in the tank

latazyo
12-04-2002, 12:42 PM
well, we're about 16 hours post treatment, and all fish seem to be healthy, I guess we'll keep an eye on those loaches

jmkeuning
08-29-2006, 3:10 PM
where do you get this idea that clown loaches need dif med? can you post a link to this so-called loach med for me? i always heard scaleless = half dose.

so latazyo, if loaches do not make it - don't worry - you did the right thing!

kcooley
08-29-2006, 3:43 PM
never use a treatment that contains copper with loaches! certain meds use copper as another ingredient but it will kill loaches

latazyo
08-29-2006, 4:15 PM
holy crap, how did this thread get brought back up?

a lot has happened since 2002

in the above case of the loaches, I did use Rid Ich and all fish were well and relieved of their ich

as a further update, I took down the tank a few years ago and have since not gotten a new one (fw that is)...I couldnt believe it when I saw my email notice for the thread subscription

jmkeuning
08-30-2006, 8:36 AM
OK, this IS funny!

Michi
01-30-2009, 6:05 PM
I'm glad it did resurface. I have been doing extensive research on treating a tank for ich that contains loaches. I could not find anything consistant, except no copper preparations, so I treated with Maracide and have been crossing my fingers. I feel a bit better after reading this...thx

latazyo
01-30-2009, 6:16 PM
lol

annual update and my annual post

PsyKick
01-30-2009, 6:34 PM
Hahaha, I was reading this going "OMG NO DONT USE MEDSSSSS, Use Salt!"
and then I got to the part where I realized it was from years ago and started laughing!

plaalye
01-30-2009, 9:45 PM
I've used rid-ich with many different loaches with no ill effects. I find it much more effective and easier than salt.

fishorama
01-31-2009, 7:43 AM
I too have used malachite green based meds with loaches. I add half the first dose in the am the other in evening to let them get used to it but no problems full dosing after that.

Michi
02-09-2009, 2:52 PM
Finished the treatment and the little guy didn't even miss a beat! He is doing great and my tiger barbs are all back to good health as well:)