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Earlier this week I stocked my 30 gallon with two Archocentrus sajica T-Bar cichlids. The fish are about 2" (male) and 1 1/2" (female), so they are still juvenile. The first two days they were inseparable, but the honeymoon didn't last long... Today the male apparently decided to keep the female in one corner of the tank and have the rest of the tank to himself. If she tries to come out of her hiding spot beneath some Amazon Sword plants, he chases her back. He guards the sand spot where food pellets land when I feed them. I am concerned she is not able to eat, plus I thought they were very compatible before, based on their behavior while exploring the tank the first two days.

I read in one of my books that you could stick some 'target' fish in the tank to help. They are non-cichlids, and fast, so they can escape. I introduced three black sailfin tetras into the tank. The first minute both T=Bars chased them, but they quickly went back to the old routine again after that. Now the tetras stay in one area (above where the female hides) and the male swims the rest of the tank.

This all sounds pretty normal to me as I write it, but since I've never kept cichlids before I'd like to see what others with cichlid experience think. Also, I know Archocentrus spawn before they are mature...is this spawning behavior?
 
you're trying to force a pair. most cichlids like to pair up on their own with a male 'selecting' a female from a group. if you're interested in breeding, it's always best to start with a group of 5-6 and let a pair form naturally ... or ... get three more females for that male.
 
30 gallons!

liv2padl said:
you're trying to force a pair. most cichlids like to pair up on their own with a male 'selecting' a female from a group. if you're interested in breeding, it's always best to start with a group of 5-6 and let a pair form naturally ... or ... get three more females for that male.

Didn't want more than 2 in a 30! Anyway, after I posted this I observed she came out and swam with him a bit. Every once in a while they would find themselves side-by-side, facing in opposite directions, and would do a little 'dance'. She also tried to lure him into a pot I have in the tank, but he would not go inside...I think they are fine...
 
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Just keep an eye on them, it sounds like they will be fine, but if they aren't, get a few more females. By this we mean get like 3 more females until he picks one he likes and they breed, then take the others out and return them to the lfs. Check with your lfs first before doing this, but they shouldn't have a problem a lot of people do it. By no means was the last person suggesting keeping all those long term, just so the male can pair off.
 
Today they seem to be getting along much better... Yes, the LFS person suggested getting several females. Then he looked at the price tag for the sajicas and understood why I was getting only two... If the problem were to continue I will get the females, although I would like to find them close to the $8.00 price suggested by one of the websites. Mine were much, much more than that!
 
Point of clarification, in most cichlid species it's the female that does the choosing. This doesn't work in an aquarium situation since you would have multiple males harrasing one female. Those of you who have kept "forced pairs" know that one male harrasing a female is plenty! So in actuality, when you add several females, what your hoping for is that one of the females picks the male :)
 
Well, all indications are that this female has her guy! By the way, they are getting along fine now...
 
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