Help! constant outbreak of White spot

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Need advise on the following. I've had my tank up an running for approx 7 weeks but have been experiencing a regular outbreak of white spot which is affecting the rummynose tetras and the Black neons. The Other fish Corys and Agassizii are unaffected. I have treated them with the correct treatment for the disease but after a week or two its back again. Water changes are done as a ritual and my water reading are fine. I'm using RO water topped up with conditioned tap water.
PH 7.2
Amomnia-0
Nitrate - 0.3
Temp. appox 77-79 as it sways due to my central heating.

2 Weeks ago I added rams to the tank One has been returned to the LFS due to been given two female instead of 1 male/female. Anyway this week I had to put the female into my quarantine tank as she was displaying Ich because of her colouration it was hard to tell if she had whitespot but it does look like she does. I have treated both tanks with the first dose of treatment and will repeat it in another two days as the dosage states that the second should be done on the 4th day.

What is causing this frequent outburst and what can I do to prevent it happening again. I'm very concern that I have had to treat the main tank 3 times concidering it has not be up and running for that long.
 
The reason you are having constant outbreaks are twofold:

1. Possibly not quarantining new fish and they are bringing ich into your tank. Quarantine all new fish for at least 3 weeks. Four is better.

2. Not treating for ich long enough. You must treat for at least 7 days to erradicate all the ich from your tank. Ich has a three-stage life cycle and the only time you can kill it is while it is in the free-swimming stage. It will take a full week for all the ich to cycle into that stage so that your treatment will kill it.

I suggest you use the heat + salt method and treat the tanks as per this article:

http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39759

Your medication would probably work, if it were used long enough. However, if the medication is having you halt treatment before a seven day period is over, then I would not use it, myself. Medications with inadequate instructions = bad juju to me.

Roan
 
Thanks Roan Art,

the article has given me somthing to work with, as It states I can gradually swop from medication to the salt solution I will start that this evening and get rid of these critters once and for all. I'll also take heed and warning and quarantine new fish for longer period of time, which means now I mad need to set up yet another tank because I'm soon gonna be unidated with Agassizii fry. Aaargh!!!! Hubby will soon put me out cos I promised him this time that I would not go any further than 1 tank and I've already reached two and i've already thinking about number 3 :p:
 
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I don't think you need to set up another tank. I had the same problem a long time ago, so I used AQUARI-SOl and did'nt raise my temperature amazing stuff. Ever since I've used it for preventive desease formula once a week 12 drops for ever 10 gallons for medicating every day for under a week. I use 6 drops half of the medication use every 7 days never had a problem. Best of luck----------Mike
 
I'm kind of nervous about using chemicals so I did salt + heat and was able to get rid of the ich.

I have a problem of my rams coming in with columnaris. All of my ram deaths have been from this. It seem the 3 I have now have passed the transition period of which I usually see it occur so I think htey are all healthy.
 
mikesoverhere said:
I don't think you need to set up another tank. I had the same problem a long time ago, so I used AQUARI-SOl and did'nt raise my temperature amazing stuff. Ever since I've used it for preventive desease formula once a week 12 drops for ever 10 gallons for medicating every day for under a week. I use 6 drops half of the medication use every 7 days never had a problem. Best of luck----------Mike
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An honest question, why are you treating diseases that are not there? This seems akin to using aquarium salt every water change. I would never trat my tank for anything unless I was certain it was necissary.
 
Why on earth would you use an ich preventative? Especially in a mature tank?

Once you erradicate it properly, there's no way you'll get ich in your tank unless you don't bother to QT new fish.

Oh, lovely. Main ingredient is Zycosin (soluble copper salts). Did you bother to research that before you started adding it to your tank?

Here's a post on here from the Skeptical Aquarist:

"Of the people recommending or disrecommending AquariSol, how many have noticed the active ingredient is "zycosin?" What percent of those people did a brief www.google.com search: "zycosin?"

The following gem of zycosin information/gossip definitely warmed my skeptical heart!
http://www.waynesthisandthat.com/unsubstantiated.htm

"silver? copper? ah, whatever! we'll still call it "zycosin!"

I wonder whether people who found Aquari-Sol didn't work for them were using dechlorinators that have conditioners included? "A little extra dechlorinator never hurts!" Do you see what some extra chelator molecules dissolved in the water might do to "zycosin?"

Is everyone aware of the pH dependence of copper toxicity? What happens, after you've used a whole bottle (!!!) when your pH drops six weeks from now, from whatever causes? Mysterious toxicity, eh?

All this talk of brand-names, and so little mention of ingredients. It's the ingredients that are important..."​
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=58852&postcount=7

Read the response from Kordon at the link he provided. That's pretty scary stuff.

FWIW, always research medications before you add them to your tank. I highly advise you to stop using AquariSol and hope you can get all the copper out of your tank.

Roan
 
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