View Full Version : Hacker hunts, and makes incredible find...
125gJoe
04-28-2006, 9:52 AM
He said one NASA scientist reported that the Johnson Space Centre had a facility where UFOs were airbrushed out of high-resolution satellite images. So, he broke in to see for himself.
Link: http://today.reuters.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.aspx?type=internetNews&storyID=2006-04-27T151200Z_01_L27758070_RTRIDST_0_OUKIN-UK-SECURITY-BRITAIN-HACKER.XML
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OrionGirl
04-28-2006, 9:56 AM
Malarkey. If a hacker doesn't want to cause damage, they don't--if they break something, they intended to. Getting IN doesn't require damaging the system or any data on it.
125gJoe
04-28-2006, 10:04 AM
I thought that money was for security "repairs" ?
The main topic (IMO) is that he really thinks "extraterrestrials", exist and has seen proof of it!
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Let's see how far that 'flies'....
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OrionGirl
04-28-2006, 10:18 AM
U.S. officials claim he caused $700,000 (388,000 pounds) worth of damage and even crippled vital defence systems shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks on New York and Washington.
I guess I wouldn't consider someone a credible source when they claim to have 'accidentally' crippled any computer system. Pouring coffee on a keyboard? Accident. Taking down a server? Not an accident.
DirkW
04-28-2006, 10:29 AM
If I where to leave my front door unlocked, does that give you the right to walk in and search my belongings?
Yes, security is sometimes lacking. Yes, sometimes secrets are secret for the wrong reasons. But every country, company, organization, or individual has an inalienable right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inalienable_rights) to keep information secret, provided it is not to support criminal activity.
I hope this hacker is convicted and sentenced to the full extent of the law.
As far as UFO's, I think he's using that as an imaginative defense for his crimes.
tricksterpup
04-28-2006, 10:52 AM
I guess I wouldn't consider someone a credible source when they claim to have 'accidentally' crippled any computer system. Pouring coffee on a keyboard? Accident. Taking down a server? Not an accident.
You know, after 9/11 you would assume that those computers would be more tight in their security from possible hackers. Our government is much as in fault as this guy is. Their systems are no longer top of the line and are lacking in security. A friend of mine was an Admin for the Gov and stated many of their systems were running software no longer supported by Microsoft.
OrionGirl
04-28-2006, 10:59 AM
I'm with DirkW on this one--an open door is NOT an invitation for theft. And, working in the IT field as I do, I am very familiar with how little the average non-tech person knows about security. For all to many otherwise very bright people, computers remain 'magic boxes', and they don't understand how they work. Even how pieces of them work. I know people who think that just by installing SpyBot, they're handling the spyware, nothing else needs to be done.
Just because you CAN rob someone blind does NOT make it okay to do so!
Cheech
04-28-2006, 11:15 AM
The thing is, I don't know how hard it is nowadays, but years back, I would chat at the MIRC page things. There were rooms where people would talk about hacking n stuff. you didn't have to be a genius programmer to hack into someone's computer. usually they're very small and simple programs that give you access to other computers....And if it's so easy to use, people will try them out.
That kid who jammed Yahoo and caused so much of a mess, "Mafia boy" admitted that when he shutdown Yahoo, it wasn't hard to do at all. he just got this program that pings the host. it repeats itself, over and over, until the server can't handle it, and it jams. I don't know the right computer terms n stuff, but you get the idea.
the military should have made it harder for this guy to break into their files. there must be a way. People are curious, and if they have a way of finding out info, they'll usually try it out. I think 70 years and 1.7 million $ is a little harsh...
endlessdream
04-28-2006, 1:52 PM
That kid who jammed Yahoo and caused so much of a mess, "Mafia boy" admitted that when he shutdown Yahoo, it wasn't hard to do at all. he just got this program that pings the host. it repeats itself, over and over, until the server can't handle it, and it jams. I don't know the right computer terms n stuff, but you get the idea.
Thats DDoS, or Distributed Denial of Service. You pretty much have the description correct.
I remember doing this to people in the computer lab in high school. When we were all working on big long projects, I used to find out where the people I didn't like were sitting at and crash their computer. They all had to start over so many times :D :D :D
I had a good laugh
wesleydnunder
04-28-2006, 2:04 PM
They oughta give the guy a medal for finding the holes in their systems.
Mark
125gJoe
04-28-2006, 6:39 PM
They oughta give the guy a medal for finding the holes in their systems.
MarkAt least he found it then, and not someone else with "extreme intent"!
I would really like to believe his statement. "My main thing was wanting to find out about UFOs and suppressed technology." Then again, there is 'dishonesty' involved here.. But, I guess no matter what comes from it, without tangible proof, it will be "laughed at" and become a "debunkers paradise".
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patoloco
04-28-2006, 7:23 PM
HAPPY CONTENT HERE
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(Very offensive words replaced by * to avoid problems)
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125gJoe
04-28-2006, 8:26 PM
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Edited to avoid trouble.As I also edited my posting...
Some might misuse 'that' word and cause a ruckus of .....
That's why I originally 'clarified' the meaning. That 'clarification' has been removed.
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I'm still trying to define words and topics so as not to P/O anyone! PM me if you need a definition on (P/O).. And - the truth still hurts ... (also, PM me on that too...) Ooops, sorry that I went off this Topic, I'm still distracted...
And, this is stated "as is" and "IMO" so, no biggie...
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..and so now I may not go to work come Monday..
(oops, a current event reference..)
I don't like Mondays' either....
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Sometimes rambling feels so good! :D
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patoloco
04-29-2006, 10:48 AM
Whatever... I was having a hell of a day yesterday.
Let's be friends or I will tell the UFO to stay away from your house.
Watcher74
05-01-2006, 9:03 PM
Originally posted by OrionGirl
Malarkey. If a hacker doesn't want to cause damage, they don't--if they break something, they intended to. Getting IN doesn't require damaging the system or any data on it.
I agree. Getting into a system does not damage the system. Most often when someone who is not an expert in computer systems hacks into a network they try to "erase their tracks". Delete a few files, system log events, etc.
They don't know what they are doing completely. Erase system critical files. System goes down, etc. That's how the damage most often occurs.
And most probably how this guy damaged anything if it is even true.
125gJoe
05-11-2006, 9:06 PM
Maybe if I capatilized the "I" and the "F" in the title on this post, the actual subject would have been commented on.
But, then again ...
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