sick ram!

[psychadelicdrea]

Ok i have this 20-25 gallon tank and i have 2 german blue ramms and 3 powder blue gourimies and a small sun devil pleco he looked cool at the lfs prolly will out grow tank but i have larger tanks to move him to,but anyways one of my rams lost all its color and is pretty much going pale and dosent seem to intrested in food it swims around a lil bit but pretty much just kinda swims in a corner like hes starein at it......but the outher ram is fine as are the rest of the fish......any ideas whats wrong with it...been doing this for about a week or 2 .....i'd hate to lose my ram not only are they kinda tough to find but ive had it for over a year.....

[Star_Rider]

there's a couple of things.

one was, many of the blue rams are coming from Asia and there have been some issues with these fish.
another thing..is there is a question of how long these fish live..on average the result has been 1-4 years.

outside of that you can only look for signs of illness. which is a possibility .

[mduros]

Are his fins clenched and does he have labored breathing? My bolivian ram gave me a similar scare recently. My LFS helped me with it and I bought some PraziPro, takes care of internal parasites and some other stuff, and Yellowbelly (my ram) recovered beautifully from whatever it was. Anyhow, he was lethragic, was pale and listless, breathed heavy and layed on the gravel with his fins clenched and just let the current of the filters push him over. Other fish were picking at him even though he wasn't dead, that's how bad he was. But there were no other external signs of disease.
Good luck,
Mary.

[Star_Rider]

I had problems with m large tank awhile back.

turned out to be internal parasites.

I was able to treat with jungle parasite clear..has metro and prazi in it.
I also picked up some levamisole in case the parasite clear didn't work.

this affected my discus and severla angelfish..but they looked normal except they didn't eat..

my largest angel went almost 3 weeks without eating.

it's difficult to do diagnosis of these issues.

[Cathy G]

I can't add to the advice you have already received, but I assume your tank water temp is at least 82? and that all your nitrogen issues are ok? (0,0 and less than 10.) That you have been doing regular water changes, etc?
Hope things work out.
Cathy

[Star_Rider]

blue rams are prett sensitive and of the water isn't right they can stress and open up to infestations(like most fish)

check your water parameters

[Star_Rider]

blue rams are prett sensitive and of the water isn't right they can stress and open up to infestations(like most fish)

check your water parameters...
what's your water changes like?

[psychadelicdrea]

well this moring he was having trouble not going belly up....and i came back from work and hes swimmin around all retarded like on his side at a angle...its sad i've had him over a year and hes not eating i thought he would be dead by the time i got home but it looked like he was doing better then when i first turned on the lights...i dunno what to do for him.....hes not eating and almost half way to being belly up ........ his fins arnt clutched up but he is breathing fast ...when i throw in food it almost looks like he trys to go for it but he cant eat it