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Wishful
06-17-2006, 1:33 PM
Since I decided on a planted tank a couple months ago, I've found a real scarcity of the type of information/discussion on treating aquatic design architecturally.

Not sure this is going to make sense, but here goes. Aquascapers will talk alot about background and midground plants and creating focal points with color, etc, but they seldomly talk about how the fish interact with environment other than the decorative affect. I almost never read anything about how the physical structure of the plant works with fish. Fish oriented folk will talk about having plants for fish to hide in and such, but seldomly get into any detail. The most I find is a sporadic mention of "this fish likes to rest on broad leaf tops" or "this fish will respond to floating plants".

For example, in part of my developing tank design, I intend to have a sandy pit. I want to turn one "shore" of the sandy area into a crypt? forest of sorts specifically geared towards my corys. They enjoy having open areas to swim and hunt for food (and open areas leave them reasonably visible) but seem most secure and relaxed when they also have the security of plant cover. The solution---carefully chosen and maintained crypts to create a sort of small forest--roughly 40% open gravel under a nearly solid canopy of crypt leaves. From what I've observed in my small tank, this should also help deter the larger mid-top level swimmers from bothering them so much when feeding as they won't be able to see the corys feeding as easily.

Again, treating plants architecturally--using them to create and define spaces for specific purposes. Anyone have recommendations on sites/sources for this type of planning?

dorkfish
06-17-2006, 2:05 PM
Just something I've obseved with my tet's, if your decorations leave an empty swimming space in the back bigger than the front, they will tend to swim in the back all the time. Leave more space towards the front, they tend to swim in the front.

Zen4t5
06-17-2006, 5:31 PM
When I was setting up my tank , I was thinking the same thing. Just like you I couldn't find anything. I think I kind of know why. All theories go out the window when dealing with nature. The best is to just try and see what happens. There are too many variables to control. There is no set personality for any specific species of fish. You might do all this research on a behaviour of a specific fish and he might not do any of it. Fish have individual personalities. The plants might not grow the way you want. One deficency in the water might change the way the plant grows. This stuff is so tank to tank, that any advice might not work on your tank. Just on a personal note, I had a set plan when I was starting. I started by adding maybe two plants a week. I changed my set up so many times it is nowhere near my original plan. I love my setup now.

I like your idea for the corys. Leave enough space between plants so the food is allowed to sink under the crypts. Too solid of a forest and all the food will be on top of the leaves. The sandy pit idea will be hard with corys. Being bottom dwellers they tend to level sand out over time. I was thinking little rolling hills. Corys scratched that plan real quick. Live and learn. One of the most universal pieces of advice.

John N.
06-18-2006, 1:26 AM
I've found this link very useful. It describes the artistic function and design of a planted aquarium.

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/library/11777-aquascaping-principles-by-birgit-wolfgang.html#post202489

-John N.

Wishful
06-18-2006, 2:01 AM
I've found this link very useful. It describes the artistic function and design of a planted aquarium.

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/forumapc/library/11777-aquascaping-principles-by-birgit-wolfgang.html#post202489

-John N.

It's a great article, but doesn't really have anything to do with what I've been looking for.

misopeenut
06-18-2006, 3:11 AM
i dont really know what youre saying but you could try using 2 different substrate.
some thing like this?
http://www.geocities.jp/vetk_style/water/road2/ga339.jpg
he has crypto and echinodorus on the corner. rasboras and corys.
about 54 Gallon, 120X45X45 (cm)