new goldy tank

psychadelicdrea said:

Are to small feeders enough to drive a new tank's ammonia up to the 4-5 ppm area.....i started up a 55 gallon tank for goldies and it has two filters rated at like 60 gallons a piece on it...and i did put a filter from a well established tank and a piece of rock in it......i did a 50 percent w/c yesterday and im going to do anouther today to get the ammonia down even further

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Apparently you're doing something right, because you haven't been flamed yet like I was for keeping two goldfish in a ten gallon tank.

Heck, they look like they're quite happy. I wouldn't argue with them.

Probably you're safe if the fish haven't died yet, and they aren't showing signs of stress, or behaving strangely.

kreuztraeger said:

Apparently you're doing something right, because you haven't been flamed yet like I was for keeping two goldfish in a ten gallon tank.

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see this:

psychadelicdrea said:

55 gallon tank

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kreuztraeger said:

Heck, they look like they're quite happy. I wouldn't argue with them.

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Maybe for now. Hasn't any one filled you in on the evil results of stunting?

kreuztraeger said:

Probably you're safe if the fish haven't died yet, and they aren't showing signs of stress, or behaving strangely.

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Iv'e seen fancy golds in a 5g hex, they looked happy, weren't behaving strangely or showing any signs of stress, but they'll be lucky to live more than 6 months. The ammonnia poisons the fish, but I doubt that would be much different than the conditions at many fish stores feeder gold tanks (horribly overstocked and amonia is probably through the roof). That being said, if the original poster wishes to keep the golds in optimum health, daily water changes will be nessisary until the bacteria builds up, and a larger tank may be nessisary, once they increase in size.

so pretty much you're experimenting? i only buy feeder goldfish and they've all done well for me in my pond, the only time i've had deaths were because of algae killing chemicals. i've kept 6 goldfish in a 10g WAAAAYY before i knew better and learned from the ppl here on AC (and articles, and CW profiles) they started off at like 1.5 in. each and grew to like 5 inches and then had to be moved, thus my first pond, which actually contains the same amount of water your curent tank does..hmm..

Why on earth are you trying to get 5ppm amonia in a tank? If you want to kick start a cycle this way, just go BUY some amonia and add it manually. If there are fish of any kind in there you should have the amonia and nitrite so close to 0 it might as well not be there. The cycle will still take place and you wont be harming the fish in the process.