cichlids owners....

[jthill]

(RANT ON) Are cichlid owners as agressive as there fish? Seems like it to me, I have never seen so much flaming on a message board EVER. Most people come to a forum for help not to have the first person respond with some idiotic reply about why they think there imoral or cruel. If I find a thread offensive you know what I do? I hit the "go back" button on my browser and go on to another thread that intrests me, but on this forum every thread I look at has two homers flaming each other about who's brain is smaller. Give me a break. This is my first and last post on this MB, not sure if the Mods are on vacation or just blind but i'm sure i'm not the only one who feels this way. (RANT OFF)















Special note to homers..... no reply's needed I don't care.

[Star_Rider]

this rant seems pointless.

especially for someone who admits this is the 'first post'

then states it is also their last post.

:bday:
what's the point if you don't hang around to see if the post makes any difference? :duh:

[~*LuvMyKribs*~]

As dumb as I think this post was.... I think that ANY particular animal lover will be aggressive towards those who do not care for animals. If I see someone torturing a dog or a cat I get furious... and the same goes for fish.


-Diana

[Emg]

Personally, I don't really care what others do with their fish........frankly, it's none of my business. As long as I do a good job taking care of mine....I see no reason to flame someone else who could care less. You can't make someone care when they just don't, so I don't waste my time trying or get a big high out of trying to make someone else feel small. :huh:

Now, if someone isn't taking proper care of thier animals/fish out of "Ignorance"...I do what I can to help...IF invited to....or if I see an opportunity to do so tactifully.

Actually, the ones who jump on the flaming bandwagon generally end up looking just as bad as the one getting flamed........

[ChileRelleno]

F.I.D.O.

Something you need to understand about this website is that it has for all practical purposes been abandoned by the administration and moderators.
It continues to function but not be maintained or moderated.
Almost anything goes now, however crude, rude, derogatory, inflammatory or ignorant.
This is truly a great loss as Aquariacentral was one of the best.
There are many other excellent and well moderated/maintained cichlid and general aquaria sites/forums to be had, these are my personal favorites.
www.aquariumadvice.com
www.aquamojo.com
www.cichlid-forum.com
www.oscarfish.com
www.planetcatfish.com
www.plecofanatics.com
www.***********.com
www.skepticalaquarist.com
Many of the likeminded users/moderators from here have formed their own aquaria website/forum to escape the chaos here, that site needs new membership, you will be well received at http://aquariumboard.com/forums/

That being said, if you can wade thru the bulls'hit there is still much experience/wisdom to be garnered and the archives are brimming with just about every imaginable topic/question.

But you better have a thick skin.

[~*LuvMyKribs*~]

I guess I just have a passionate personality. When it comes to animals I feel the need to repair the wrongs that others have done. Animals are the last innocence in this world and people severely take advantage of that. I'm not with PETA or anything, but I do aggree with thier goals, and feel everyone else should begin to think differently about all the living organisms on this planet. After all, they have earned thier right to be here just as we have, and we have no right to experiment on them and treat them like lesser organisms.

-Diana

[beatle]

This board (and others, to a lesser extent) has a lot of people who are overbearing in how they deliver their opinions. I've seen many responses that lambaste the OP with how they should be treating their fish, rather than giving friendly advice. There is such a thing as tact, but it escapes many people on this board.

IMO, I take relatively good care of my fish and I've learned a lot from people on this board. As I gain experience, however, I realize that a lot of the advice goes to the extreme, especially with regards to stocking levels, filtration, and maintenance.

[DeRo316]

It just seems like this is one of the more popular aquaria boards which means more trolls. If you're on here a couple times a day or even daily you're bound to run into one + the miseducation of people by pet stores leads people to believe they know what they are talking about when they really don't.

[atc_ben]

(RANT ON) Are cichlid owners as agressive as there fish? Seems like it to me, I have never seen so much flaming on a message board EVER. Most people come to a forum for help not to have the first person respond with some idiotic reply about why they think there imoral or cruel. If I find a thread offensive you know what I do? I hit the "go back" button on my browser and go on to another thread that intrests me, but on this forum every thread I look at has two homers flaming each other about who's brain is smaller. Give me a break. This is my first and last post on this MB, not sure if the Mods are on vacation or just blind but i'm sure i'm not the only one who feels this way. (RANT OFF)















Special note to homers..... no reply's needed I don't care.

http://static.flickr.com/42/98926342_37157f73ff_o.jpg

Thanks for wasting bandwidth for a post to say that you're not gonna be posting here. If you can't handle someone being rude to you or to others, then stay off the internet and never leave your house. God forbid someone actually disagree with someone and point out unbelievably blatant stupidity. While I'm normally one to "hit the back button" as well, sometimes a stupid thread/post comes along, and I just can't pass it up. This is one of those posts. Congratulations!

[tonytheboss1]

:cool: I believe in my case it's more passion than aggression. I deeply care for the fish, not just mine. That's why I tend to express displeasure when I encounter "devil may care' attidudes. These are living creatures that need to be respected & treated w/ the utmost care. Their are a number of members here that feel as I do but sadly we seem to be in the minority these days. I haven't totally given up on this forum yet because I believe new hobbyist here still need sound advice & if I can share w/ just a few, then my 'sig' holds true. Alot of the :rant2: should be replaced w/ :idea: and the :mad: w/ :) . That would go a long way to improving the climate around here! :argue: dosen't have to be a 'no holds barred' contest. :read: a little more, :D a little more and we'll all be the better for it!! :clap: :clap:

[Sully]

interesting comments. I guess that is why I have posted a certain way in a couple of obviously ugly threads.

I recently resigned as a moderator from a popular fish board that did not make the list above. I guess I was worn out after several years of the same old same old. people coming and people going. some with a more refined sense of personal responsibility and ethics than others. some that believed that people, regardless of where you encounter them should be treated with the appropriate respect and courtesy. Others thought it ok to belittle, argue and treat individuals with no respect.

why do mods and admins walk away over time? because they first arrive with the goal to help others learn about fish and share the love and the passion they possess. they don't even really notice the undue amount of time they spend being babysitters initially. then, over time they realize they begin to act more like a "board cop" and not like a hobbyist sharing their knowledge and enjoyment. but, in the interests of a board they perform the menial tasks and mediation as well as possible--mods are not some high paid group of individuals, their reward is the exchange of knowledge and growth they observe in individuals as they learn about and discover fish. Then the bs grinds on them. it wears them down. they no longer derive enjoyment because they are discussing fish so seldom. instead they are spending time tending to baord etiquette and conflict. most of us that serve as mods have been doing fish for a long time. decades. we tpically have lives that involve some level of responsibility. what we started doing for the love of fish and helping others discover that love turns into something else entirely. It becomes drudgery to show up at our own boards. so we stop. we quit. we cut back. we go to other places where not as many people know us as mods--or perceive us as "experts".

A board that runs smoothly is possible because of an attitude fostered by mods. But, it is only possible to achieve when the members accord one another the basics of civility and respect. You never have to respect the lack of knowledge or ignorance. You always have to respects the others simple humanity.

You discover it is easier to walk away from arguements when you think that way. boards begin to run more smoothly. boards build a sense of community among members. trolls, because they are not fed go away on their own. afterall it is the attention that they are given that they are after. if you don't give people what they want they go elsewhere to satisfy the need--however perverse.

Is that to say there is never conflict? absolutely not. but, you learn how to deal with it so that the boards sense of community is not damaged or destroyed.

I guess it is all basically a question of maturity, either the people and members at a board exhibit it or they don't.

people that know me understand i can babble forever in a post. not my goal here. so i have said my peace and will move along.

[Rowangel]

Sully, nicely put…and agreed with.


...But, it is only possible to achieve when the members accord one another the basics of civility and respect. You never have to respect the lack of knowledge or ignorance. You always have to respects the others simple humanity...I guess it is all basically a question of maturity, either the people and members at a board exhibit it or they don't.My mantra when I go to post...doesn't always work, but I try. ;)