A Newbie in need of help!!!

FSUAces

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Aquarists,

I just set up my first saltwater tank and I need some advice. Its a 10 gallon tank with topfin filter for 10 gallon, with a heater, crush coral sand. I'm letting the tank run for a week and half before I add anything. I just want to experience the tank with a pair of clownfish and a live rock! Do I need to add another filter or anything esle? What esle can I add in the tank? I have read some books but Im still in the minority about saltwater. The Filter part is what Im most confused about!! Im only doing a 10 gallon tank just to learn before I setup my 29 gallon tank. Any advice will be appreciate and I thank you for reading my post. Please remember Its my first tank and I would like to go smoothly for me. Thank you


Mike
 
HI me too, I just set up my 20 gal tank and doing the 'run in' now for the last 2 days!

Some advised live rock within the first week but some said no. According to the shop, it is just simple as long as you don't overload the tank with fishes. We need the experts tips. :dance:
 
FSUAces said:
Do I need to add another filter or anything esle?


No, but your tank will be a little harder to mantain than a 20+ gallon tank in respect to water stability (some sites recomend daily testing on a tank this size, altough I'm doubtfull that's true once the tank matures; I'm suposed to be testing weekly on larger systems, but I rarely if ever have to test now that the tank is mature, becuase the water test almost always come up he same), and will also be a little harder to mantain than most marine tanks becuase of the lack of a protien skimmer ( I suggest your read this article on filtration for the small marine aquarium. You might want to set up a ten gallong quarantine tank as well, becuase if one of the clowns or any other fish gets a disease, you cannot safely treat it in the main tank (read this article on quarantining).

FSUAces said:
What esle can I add in the tank?

5 scarlet or blue leg hermit crabs (be sure to get atleast 10 extra shells that are similar in size to the hermit's shells, to prevent dead hermits/snails), 8 astrea sp. snails and maybe a pepermint shrimp.


FSUAces said:
Im only doing a 10 gallon tank just to learn before I setup my 29 gallon tank.

If possible, try and start out with a larger tank, as larger tanks are much easier to aquascape, manage, and stock with livestock. Larger tanks are also more forgiving of mistakes.

FSUAces said:
I'm letting the tank run for a week and half before I add anything.

It won't turn out good if you do that. You need to do a live rock cycle if you wish for your tank to go smoothly.

Taken from my reply to one of bukitimah's threads:

If you introduce fish or shrimps 2-3 days after setting the tank up I assure you they will die. However told you that knows nothing about even freshwater tanks, let alone salt water tanks, do not trust thier advice.

You need to cycle the tank with uncured live rock, wich can take over a month, before adding fish to the tank. Purchase 15-20 ilbs of live rock, and monitor amonia and nitrite levels (with an accurate test kit, I recomend you purchase an aquarium phamicuetical's slatwater master test kit). You should see a spike of amonia, followed by that dropping back to zero, then the same for nitrite. Once nitrite drops back to zero after a spike, you are ready to add your first fishes, preferably a pair of the clowns.

Please note: during the time period in wich you are monitoring amonia and nitrite, watch out for any pest hitch-hikers that may have came in on the rock. Some pests are cpable of eating your fish and anything else that moves (mantas shrmp), and some will take over your whole tank (aiptasia/glass anemones), so you need to keep a watchfull eye on the tank and take corective measures when nessisary.


bukitimah said:
According to the shop, it is just simple as long as you don't overload the tank with fishes. We need the experts tips.

Well, you do know the people at the shop are there to make a living, and not to insure there livestock ends up in the best of care, right?. Following there advice, you would most likely end up with dead fish, then you would go back to the fish store, buy more fish and possibly some "cycle" or similar products that don't work (all this is more money for the fish store) and then, the fish die again, and the cycle repeats itself for 1-2 months when one or two fishes live (although after this you would still be wanting more fish). Please read my above comments, they will really help you.
 
Whatever you do, you need to make sure your tank has cycled before you add fish or else they will die. I killed a couple damsels in my 10gal because I didn't monitor the water. I suggest you get some saltwater aquarium books and read up. My mom bought me like 3 books when I kept killing my fish.

You also might want to add a small powerhead for more water circulation and boost the oxygen level in the tank.
 
in all honesty i don't know a whole lot about smaller tanks other than that they are alot harder to maintain. but to answer the live rock/filter thing for you...Live rock acts as a filter. the general rule of thumb is 1.5 lbs of live rock for every gallon of water. i wouldn't waste my money on a protein skimmer unless your planning on coral. i do agree with a medical/quarantine tank so you don't take a chance of introducing any diseases to the tank.
 
The "smaller tanks are harder to maintain" is somewhat of a myth. It has its valid points, but those can be easily overcome. I started with a 5 gallon Nano-reef (which was smoother sailing than some of my freshwater tanks), progressed to a 20 gallon reef, and now to a 30 gallon reef. My 20 and 30 are still running. My 5 gallon was acutally so successful it came in 3rd in a internet contest, pretty good for my first reef tank. I suggest doing a lot of reading on Nano-reef tanks and familiarize yourself with some successful setups. Also, learning about the cycling process (ie the Nitrogen Cycle).

:)
-Diana
 
USCavalry19d said:
in all honesty i don't know a whole lot about smaller tanks other than that they are alot harder to maintain. but to answer the live rock/filter thing for you...Live rock acts as a filter. the general rule of thumb is 1.5 lbs of live rock for every gallon of water. i wouldn't waste my money on a protein skimmer unless your planning on coral. i do agree with a medical/quarantine tank so you don't take a chance of introducing any diseases to the tank.

Hi, I was at Coral XXX in Lim Chu Kang this morning. According to the young gentlement, 20 gal tank is impossible for marine fish. After hearing that, I am a bit worry if I can make it but so many people here is saying otherwise. Especially the skimmer thing, according to him, it is a must and overhead filter no go?

I was at Fish Farm 2 and the live rock is $6/ kg and over here it is $18. According to him, their are from Brazil. Is it worth it? Expert advise here would help beginers like us to make good selection.
 
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