29 gallon suggestions

[nate da fishman]

hi i have a
29 gallon
2 danios
2 daffodils cichlids
1 parrot cichlid [ pink]

i was wondering if anything else can go in there and if so any suggestions?

thanks

nate

[fish_freak]

Unfourtunately its already over stocked with the blood parrot in there and im not sure what a daffodils is or how big they get but I would say you should upgrade to at least a 55 gallon for all those fish.

[nate da fishman]

i really cant afford a 55 since im 15 and cant get a job yet so ill have to think about it. but the parrot is only 3 inches. how much bigger can they get?

[nate da fishman]

Neolamprologus pulcher = daffodil

[nate da fishman]

if i get rid of the parrot what can i put in there in its place?

[harles2000]

not sure - couldnt find any info on neolamprogus pulcher with searches.

<rant on>you should get rid of that abomination in your tank first and foremost however. If people would stop buying those hybrid monstrosities, maybe the money hungry SOB's that breed them would stop. they would probably come up with something else, but just about anything is better than those freaks of nature<rant off>

ok. I dont know about about african cichlids, but the words neolamprogus and pulcher scream african cichlid, possibly mbuna. but again, I dont know africans very well.
what are the size limits and aggression level of this fish?

you also need more than 2 danios - what type of danios, zebra, pearl, giant?

what are your water parameters - ph temp, etc. with a little more info, it will be alot easier to give recommendations on what to stock it with

[nate da fishman]

zebra 78-80 not shure about the other stuff im buying a water testing kit finally tommarow. thanks

[DeRo316]

The parrot will get a few inches bigger. Those daffodil cichlids are from Lake Tang so they like very hard water with a ph of 8.0+, they get to about 4 inches so those could be your showcase fish if you take care of them. You could use some crushed coral to raise your ph if you plan to go that way. Otherwise I would get rid of the daffodils and keep the parrot and danios and get a few more danios and some tetras or something small.

[nate da fishman]

there is absolutley no way to keep the fish i got? without buying a new tank?

[nate da fishman]

i really like the daffodils and what is the parrot a hybrid of?

[Emg]

yeah, the parrot is a hybrid Nate......not sure what they mix to get them...lol.


I did an image search on those daffodils.....I'd keep those too !! :D Here's a profile I found on them...I don't know how accurate it is, I don't know anything about these fish.....but it could be a start for you.. http://fish.mongabay.com/species/Neolamprologus_pulcher.html
I wouldn't go for a larger tank Nate.......especially since you can't afford it. Just pick which fish you'd really like to keep and do some research into compatable tankmates and setups for it.

And....have fun in the process !! :thm:

[Jayhawk]

Nate - Daffodils are really cool fish. If you have a pair, they'll fill up that tank for you with fry. They're colonial in nature, so after the parents have fry the fry stay around and help take care of future generations of fry...very cool social behavior to watch. If you have two of the same sex, they're still cool fish. They're very hard to sex, so you could always return just the parrot, and maybe add two more daffodils (unless you know the two you have are a pair because they've started spawning). You can make some money raising daffodils to a size big enough to sell!

Eric

[rosita]

Parrot: Severum + Red Devil
N. pulcher: Lake Tanganyika (higher % of rift lake salts needed)
http://www.cichlidrecipe.com/crp17.htm

Nate, I have a pair of N. brichardi in my 55g with some peacocks. Same family as pulchers (ref. above link) Look verry similar. Hints on sexing:
Females are generally smaller
Females have slightly shorter finnage--I spent over half an hour watching the tankful to pick them out--they were all same age.

Although they are the smallest of all (and they grow slowly) they RULE half the tank (they let others swim, but sometimes run them off--mine have two little tiny teeth top and bottom their breeder wasn't even aware of, but they've never been physical with the others). Often called "Fairy Fish" or Lyre Tails, they excavate holes in the substrate when spawning--mine have moved sand/crushed coral/gravel mix under one rock, and have begun another!! No fry yet, but her belly is swollen.

Best of luck. OH, the parrot will get UP TO 10"; not necessarily that large, but they do get big, and round roly-poly. ~renee

[nate da fishman]

so the daffodil cichlid are african cichlids?

[nate da fishman]

becasue lake tangyinka is in africa..................right?


nate

[wobble]

yes

[nate da fishman]

then shouldnt the parrot fight the african cichlids?

[DeRo316]

They dont fight based on nationality.

It has more to do with the temperment of the fish and if he/she is protecting anything like territory or mates/fry. Also the more they see eachother the more they will fight so the bigger the tank the better.

[rosita]

If you look carefully at your Parrot, you'll see it's mouth is fixed open. They cannot move them, so biting aggression would be next to impossible. They do have a little flap right inside to keep out detritus, but it really is a disturbing deformity resultant of the hybridization. Therefore, the Parrot has little defense against aggressive fish The Daffodils are only territorial, and even with their diminutive size, can run off others from their space. I just think the Parrot is going to eventually get too big or become stunted in your tank--granted, a 29L seems like alot of space, but he'll need to have swimiming/stretching out room later. Sorrry. Maybe you can start saving up for a used--they don't seem to grow as quickly as others. :dance2:

[jm1212]

accually, parrots gain the use of their mouths over time, and all of the parrots over 3 inches have been able to move there mouths somewhat

[rosita]

Hey, thanks, jm, that's really good to know!! I'd just never seen one able to do it, but they were all younger!!! :p:

[SubluxT7]

Nate,

U need at least 3-4 more danios as they are schooling fish. Good luck.

Sandy

[rosswake]

you probably already know, but a Blood Parrot will not do well with the African Cichlids for very long. one reason is the differences in aggression(Africans are much more aggressive), and the other is water parameter requirements. The africans require a higher PH, which will make life even tougher for the BP than it already will be living with the African cichlids. Even though I really like the Blood Parrots, you may want to find a better home for it, and make your tank an African cich. tank.

[kmgriff72]

This is my question, if blood parrots mouths are fixed and they can't move them then how do they grab food and eat? Also, do they go ok with clown loaches?

[nate da fishman]

Ty. My Dentist Is Going To Get A S/a Tank Going To He Will Take Her/him When The Tank Is Set Up. Thanks For The Info. Im Going To Miss Him.

Nate

[rosita]

km: refer to jm's post above, where he answers.

[nate da fishman]

maybe i can find a use one. so 55 is the minimum? and how long can i wait till i get one......before it stunts?

[nate da fishman]

thanks eveyong expecially nemo

nate

[kmgriff72]

Rosita, all that says is that they have use of them over time and especially when they are over 3 inches, what do they do when they are babies is what I was asking?

[rosswake]

when they are younger, (and mine is about 3"), they don't move their mouth much.-you can see its mouth on my avatar pic- thats what it looks like all the time. But they don't have a problem eating -flake food and small pellets- I haven't seen him eat a feeder fish yet. They pretty much just suck the food in and it disappears.

[nate da fishman]

i got 2 leapoerd and 2 zebra danois today to go with the other 2 zebra danios.


nate

[kmgriff72]

Ok, thanks for the info.