Very Bad Ick - Copper not working!!

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I have other threads about trying to beat Ick and I went with QT and Copper. Since then I have lost a couple Damsels, 2 ClownFish, and my Koran Angel. The Nitrites got very very high and I did a huge water change. I might have caught it too late and I am thinking maybe that is why the Koran died. I have been using the Copper for a week now and day 3-4 semmed to get a little better. I could only see it slightly on the Hippo Tang. Now day 7 it is back all over the hippo tang and another Damsel .My sailfin looked like it had nothing and now it is back on him also. How long does it take copper to work? Also I was thinking about quittting the Copper and trying something else like Formalin. Is this a good idea? Can I add Quick Cure with the Copper? I hope I can save something, it is not looking good. I know you have to have the correct amount of Copper or it will hurt the fish or do nothing to the Ick. THe test kit is so vauge, is there a better kit? Please help, THanks
 
i never heard of useing copper to treat ich.....and copper ruins your tank...and from what i read it makes it uninhabitable for corals ......do a search on the site theirs tons of threads about curing ich without dumping copper in your tank
 
Quinsulex from Aquatronics. can be hard to find. check your LFS's. this med worked within 2 days and no secondary infections. u will see ich, but it will not look like healthy ich, more like smeared untill it's gone. 5 days of treatment in total. i don't even know what to tell u to do with copper at this point. o.k. i've got an idea. set up another tank with water from your main tank and some sand for bio activity, don't forget a power stone. go to wallmart, get a set of 20 gallons tank, pay for it, save the reciept, use it for what u need, return the tank back to wallmart when u done and get your money back. when u bring a tank home, set it up close to the one u have, move the fish and medicate with the med i'm recomending. call around for the med before u actualy go to you local fish stores. and don't worry about nitrates, they don't really effect the fish, just the amount of desolved organics. i also never tryed formalin
 
forgot to say that some clown fish don't handle copper at any ammount, not talking about the high ammount like u have for treating ich.
 
Please see the message I posted on "white spots" thread.....68551 Sue
 
BadRoma1 said:
set up another tank with water from your main tank and some sand for bio activity, don't forget a power stone. go to wallmart, get a set of 20 gallons tank, pay for it, save the reciept, use it for what u need, return the tank back to wallmart when u done and get your money back. when u bring a tank home, set it up close to the one u have, move the fish and medicate with the med i'm recomending.
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What a totally irresponsible suggestion. To suggest that someone go to Walmart, buy a tank, take it home, treat their fish with who knows what, then take the tank back after????????

It is people like this that makes you wonder why all of a sudden you can't keep snails or anything in your tank you bought from Walmart and set up, did everything right and still they die???

copper and other medications render the tank totally unusable for any other purpose ever. D
 
Lorna. the med i recomended can be washed off easy. and of cause u wash everything off before the return. so i didn't think of it as a big deal. i didn't recomend copper or anything harmful like that in the first place. i hate copper and don't think it works or worths anybody's time. and i don't believe that everybody out there returns the QT after use. i still have mine. so there is no way that returned QTs are the reason why lots of people can't keep their animals alive. besides, didn't u read this post so u could help Rightnow with the problem he is having? or do u read posts to start fights? :joe:
 
No I don't read this to pick fights........but I can't sit by in good concience and listen to someone suggest something that is unethical.......I didn't say it was the cause of people's livestock dying.....but that it makes me question the integrity of items I purchase when I am not sure someone *not you in particular* reads this thread and DOES go out there, use copper, then return something after they are finished using it. That is one of the reasons in general that we pay too much for things.....That is like buying a prom dress and wearing it to the prom and returning it monday morning.....nice......

Everyone who enters this hobby should keep a quarantine tank or hospital tank in storage for just this instance.......

I wasn't contradicting your advice, just your methods.....and if you can't take the heat get out of the water.
 
Crown Royal, i don't agree with that. u can speed up ich's life cycle by getting temp. higher. also there are meds now that can kill ick even if it's deep in the skin of the fish. hyposalinity and copper are too very old ways of getting rid of ick, and both are very slow acting and i think only somewhat effective as preventitive( also copper can kill some fish even in low ammounts)
 
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