angel fish

[bettagurl]

how big of a tank does a angel fish need?

[Candycat21]

Nice to see you again Bettagurl! :D
To answer your question, I wouldn't keep one in less than a 29 gallon high. You can easily have a nice pair in a 29 with a few bottom feeders etc. They're awesome fish!! I have way too many....mine keep having babies...I've stopped trying to rear them myself and have now changed to the "fittest survive" method....just don't have anymore room LoL

[bettagurl]

im not sure(ive never kept angels)but do they get along with female bettas?i would like to put one or two in my 30 gal with the two girls i bought from you,but i deffinetly will not put them with the girls if there may be problems,i planned on heavily planting the tank and having caves here and there,my stocking plans were going to be,
6 cory cats
two female bettas
and a clown pleco(maby)
i would love a angel but i dont want to have problems with putting the girls with them.like i said i have never had angels before and will research them alot.
:)

[jm1212]

we have already told you you need to get another female betta more than anything else if you plan on keeping them both.
an angel would work BUT, you need to splurge and get one of the biggest sizes you can find (not the ones that have bodies the size of a dime that are like $5 at petsmart). you should look around alot and see what each store has. i know that petsmart gets angels that are 75% of the way to being fully grown. im not saying you need to get one that big already, but make sure that the angel is at least 1/2 inch bigger than the biggest of the bettas you are going to put in there. otherwise, it may be tormented by the female bettas and have its scales and fins nipped, etc.

[bettagurl]

im going to my favorite lfs tomorrow and buy about 3 female bettas,would a fully grown angel be ok in the 30 gallon?I dont want the angel to get stunted or have the bettas get picked on.thanks :)

[jm1212]

i wouldnt get a truly fully grown angel, because one, they carry a hefty price, and two, they might not acclimate to your tank as well as young ones. i would look at the biggest size the LFS has and the smallest size, and if you are lucky, they will have medium sizes in between. if they only have a really tiny and a really big, then you might want to go to petsmart and get their "large" which is really about half size.that should be fins as long as you get the 3 other females. i have found that if the angel is the only one in the tank, they take the whole tank as their territory and then simple ignore the other fish in it, or they veiw them just as fish that live with them but do pose a threat to their territory.

[bettagurl]

good,ill probably get an angel,if not a school of neon tetras,when/if i get an angel fish is there a specific food for them?the tank is nicely planted and has caves and rocks.

[jm1212]

i feed mine regular flakes and the color enhancing kind, along with some pelets and other frozen food. i have seen a flake food designed especially for angelfish

[Candycat21]

Hey Bettagurl,

Sorry it took me so long to reply :o I have Angels mixed in with a few female bettas of mine and they are doing great together. Never bothered each other evem at the begining. My angels were all full grown once I added the bettas. As far as aggression goes...I have never had any of my females bother other fish...they just tend to flare and spar with the other females a bit...nothing serious.
Whether you end up getting a smaller or larger angel, it really shouldn't matter as the tank will be new to all of them.
Yea like jm1212 has said...angels eat just about whatever food you throw in..mine get flakes, shrimp pellets, algea wafers, peas, frozen bloodworms, brineshrimp and mosquito larvae. They're not fussy at all thank goodness :thm:

[bettagurl]

how do you sex angelfish?i would like a pair but if they spawned would they be agressive towards the other fish?candycat21/,the females you sent me are so sweet,the copper is so curious about everything while the yellow is so mellow.i have one of my betta fry in a baby net in the girls tank because he is so much bigger than the other fry he was trying to eat them.the girls are so curious about him he got out of his net by accident and they ignored him(i dont trust them with him yet though).

[Star_Rider]

there is no reliable method, other than when the angels are spawning, to sex tha angels.

angels will become territorial when they pair up..most of the aggressive behavior is during the breeding cycle ..they will defend the area they intend to spawn in and will defend the spawn site once they spawn.
there are a couple of days after spawning where they are relatively peacful(unless they are raising the young)
angels spawn about every two weeks.

[beatle]

I have a fully grown angel with a female betta, some neons, and a pair of bolivian rams in my heavily planted 55g. The neons were a cheap experiment and they are slowly disappearing one by one. The angel must be getting to them. I've never seen the angel or betta fight, though the betta eats much faster than the angel. She's getting very fat because of this. Your 30 should be plenty of room for the angel and bettas.

[Candycat21]

Hey, Glad to know they're doing well and enjoying their new tank! :clap:
As far as sexing angels...like the others have said, it just about impossible until they actually breed. I would only do a single angel in the 30 with the female bettas...because if you happen to end up with a male/female angel and they spawn, they will be extremely aggressive...i've had breeding pairs literally chase down and kill other angels and bigger fish for trespassing so to speak, so just stick with the one angel and the females.

[bettagurl]

i found some angels at my lfs,
3 inches long 5inches tall
$24.95

5 inches long and 7 inches tall
$22.99

i was amazed that the bigger one was cheaper,every time i go to the fish section in the pet shop the angel comes the the glass,im not sure what kind she is but she has one orange spot on her head and the rest of her body is a pale yellow-white color.candycat21, im going to send you some pics of the tank,its a little cloudy(i just added some plants and did a gravel vac).

[jm1212]

if you end up getting the bigger one, make sure that all of the angels in the tank are in really good health.

[bettagurl]

there is only one angel in the tank,her fins are a little torn but other than that she looks healthy.how long can angels live?

[meyerhaus]

Too bad I am not coming to VA anytime soon; I have about 100 quarter-size (body only) Blushing Gold Angels (I do not ship Angels). IMHO $23 is too much for an Angelfish; if there are other LFS, call them and check out their stock.

[jm1212]

angels have a life span of about 15 years
BWT i wouldnt go with a fish with torn fins, but if they have MINIMAL tears then you could go with it. just make sure that when you get her there are acctually fins and not stubs where the fins used to be. to many times have i seen angels in pet stores that have little or no fins left, and that extensive of an injury can lead to fungal infections.
so IMO check her out and if her fins are only torn a bit then you should be ok.

[bettagurl]

i dont think im going to get the angel with the torn fins,she acts too aggresive towards other fish.i would have loved your angels meyerhaus,too bad.

[sarcare]

Meyerhaus, if you are ever in Columbus, I am looking for angels for my 55g. The stores around here have very poor selection of angels if any. I'm sort of planning on going to the CAFE auction in October to see if I can get some angels there.

[meyerhaus]

I should have some ready for the Greater Cincinnati Aquarium Society Auction in October, but I am not sure if I can make it yet. Keep in touch sarcare...I'll see if we can work something out.

[Myra]

its better for 55 gallons