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madroosta
10-03-2006, 9:45 AM
the majority of my fish love it!!! just wonderin if anyone else uses it? i do use flakes, pellets and bloodworm too but this is like a treat for them! lol

plah831
10-03-2006, 2:26 PM
I wouldn't feed my fish ham, personally. It's pretty highly processed and may contain all sorts of preservatives like sodium nitrite. Not to mention all that salt! You might be giving your fishies little heart attacks :D Just kidding, no it's mostly all the chemicals used to process it that I wouldn't want in my tanks.

YoFishboy
10-03-2006, 8:37 PM
Sorry...my fish observe Kosher ;)

RISK2123
10-03-2006, 8:46 PM
i dont think id give ham a whirl either. are you using deli meat bought in stores? plahs right about preservatives, it could cause alot of problems with water chemistry. ive read dry dog food works as a treat but ive never tried that either. the ham might be perfectly fine, i would just test your water extensively when you do add it in. after all, fish dont eat pigs in nature =P

Jadis
10-04-2006, 2:38 AM
ham almost killed my dog. and it was a really small amount of ham (like less than 1 oz.) its really high in salt and preservatives. i wouldnt even dare get any near my tank....

kraemerwa2003
10-04-2006, 2:46 AM
too many preservatives for me...frozen brine shrimp and frozen bloodworms work well for my fish...they love the blood worms and occasionally I feed them live newly hatched brine shrimp and they love it...

sumthin fishy
10-04-2006, 8:59 AM
Not to mention, terestrial mamalian fats are not as water soluable as aquatic fats. Feeding fish anything like ham, mice, beef, etc. is risky in that aspect as well.

madroosta
10-04-2006, 10:08 AM
Not to mention, terestrial mamalian fats are not as water soluable as aquatic fats. Feeding fish anything like ham, mice, beef, etc. is risky in that aspect as well.

I will say that i do trim the fat first before i put it in, it is also cuts and not processed stuff.

bettagurl
10-04-2006, 12:39 PM
i give my betas raw hamburger once a week as a treat,im lucky to get away from the girls with my hands.:D

madroosta
10-04-2006, 12:48 PM
i give my betas raw hamburger once a week as a treat,im lucky to get away from the girls with my hands.:D
mmmmmmmmmmm hamburgers!!!

Sploke
10-04-2006, 12:53 PM
The only raw meat my fish and turtles get is shrimp or fish, or frozen mysis, bloodworms or brine shrimp. Everything else is freeze dried, pelletized or flaked food. Except for the snapper turtle who gets frozen mice sometimes. I wouldn't want terrestrial meats in my tank, they all seem so greasy and fatty I'd be worried about fouling up the water.

SirWired
10-04-2006, 1:06 PM
I will say that i do trim the fat first before i put it in, it is also cuts and not processed stuff.

Depending on the brand of ham, preservatives can still be added during the curing process. Ham, by definition, is a processed meat product. You really need to see an ingredients list. I am also not sure how fish would handle the salt that is almost always added to ham.

SirWired

RISK2123
10-04-2006, 1:24 PM
all this talk of salty ham is making me hungry

madroosta
10-04-2006, 1:31 PM
all this talk of salty ham is making me hungry
mmmmmmmmm ham!!!!!!!!!!!
well all i do know is that at first there was a lot of just looking at it when it entered the water, then after a few hours it was gone,now after a few weeks its only a matter of minutes before nothing but content fishy smiles.

Debra Mark
10-05-2006, 10:18 AM
Try using beef heart as a treat - trim off all visible fat. You can cut it into cubes or strips, or grind it for smaller fish. I would also stay away from any processed meats.

plah831
10-05-2006, 10:27 AM
Not to mention, terestrial mamalian fats are not as water soluable as aquatic fats.
I didn't even think about that part. But you're right, I can't think of any seafood that contains saturated fat the way beef or pork does. So maybe I was right about the giving your fish a heart attack?

I was also wondering if the sodium nitrite contributes nitrite to the water? I mean, it's probably in tiny amounts (depending on how much ham you put in) but I wonder...