HELP!!! My Angels just at their eggs!!!!

[aquafan1]

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Hi, I've been trying to get my angel fish pair to spawn for the past year, they finally spawned 2 days ago.
This morning I noticed some of the eggs had been attacked with fungus, this afternoon I quickly removed those eggs as the parents just left them there and it was spreading to the other eggs, so I did what I thought was in the best interest of their eggs, considering that they where first time parents.
They didn't seem to mind that I was removing the fungussed eggs, as all the remaining eggs were all healthy wigglers.
After about an hour I noticed that the both parents had picked up some of the fungused eggs of the floor of the tank and were trying to put tem back with the other eggs, but because the eggs were laid on the rear glass of the tank it just bounced off and took some of the healthy ones with them.
This behaviour went on until all the eggs were gone ( much to the delight of my clown loaches).
Does anyone have an idea on why this took place, and what do I have to do to get them to spawn again, and lastly how long will it be till they spawn again.
I'm very eager to breed these angels, as they both have stunning markings, they truly are attractive fish!!!

Any help will be appreciated!

[jm1212]

they shou;d spwan again within the next two weeks

BTW it is not uncommon for new angel pairs to eat their first batches of eggs, and your clown loaches couldve had a go at them too.
how big is the tank? what are your parameters?

[aquafan1]

they shou;d spwan again within the next two weeks

BTW it is not uncommon for new angel pairs to eat their first batches of eggs, and your clown loaches couldve had a go at them too.
how big is the tank? what are your parameters?


the tank is 3', 120 litre community tank, I thougt that one of my other fish might have tried to have a go at the eggs, but the female angel is much to aggressive to anything that moves in her direction, I also have a nght light which I leave on all night so that it makes it easier for the pair to protect the eggs.

[aquafan1]

i should have also mentioned that the tank is 18 months old, with an external canister filter, and the paramaters are Ammonnia:0, Nitrite:0, Nitrate:0, PH:7.6, water temp is constant 26 degrees celcius

[jm1212]

what else is in the tank besides the angles and loaches?

BTW that tank is to small for clown loaches, especially if you are keeping them in a proper group

[aquafan1]

my loaches are only 5 cms long and when too big for this tank they will go into my 1000 ltr planted tank, but I also have 3 bristlenose catfish, 2 gouramis, 6 Ruby Barbs, 1 Upside down catfish, and a breeding pair of kribensis.

This tank is heavily planted and I have never had a problem with aggression, apart from the occasional chase from the male krib when the fry are about, and just recently the female angel chasing away intruders!!

[jm1212]

kribs can get nasty when they breed, so you should probably get them their won tank so they wont hurt any of your other fish.

clown loaches are stunted very easily, and they should go in to the 1000 litre immediatly

[aquafan1]

actuall I should have mentioned that the clowns where 2 cms long when I bought them they have grown alot since I have had them, but they will go into the 1000 ltr tank soon, and as for the kribs, I know that people have probably said this in the past, but both my kribs are sooks, they chase and on the occassion headbut the other fish but they have never attacked, and the chasing was only done if some of the other fish tried to get into the clay flower pot!!

[TwoTankAmin]

The odds are good that you will never see an angel fry make it to free swimming in that tank. Everything in there wants them for lunch and the parents will eat the eggs/fry themselves before they allow something else to get the nutirition. Moreover, your other fish may suffer damagae from the angels trying to protect the brood.

If you really want angel fry you will need to set the pair up in their own spawning tank.

[JulieC]

Also, you may have to plan to pull the eggs from the pair as soon as they lay them. My angelfish lay eggs every 2 weeks and if I want any fry to survive, I have to pull the eggs as soon as they are laid for two reasons: 1) My pair will eat them. Some angelfish never raise fry on their own. It is because they have been so imbred for so long that their instincts aren't what they should be. 2) No matter how good at guarding the eggs your fish are, they have to sleep sometime and that's when the rest of the "community" will eat them.

Angelfish breeding is nothing to get into lightly. (I am not saying that you are, I am just letting you know.) You need a seperate tank to grow out the fry because even if your pair are good parents now, in two weeks they won't be. When the pair are ready to spawn again, they will eat the free swimming fry that they took such great care of before. So you need a tank big enough to house the fry. In a first batch you could get anywhere from 1 to 100, so you'd need the right size tank based on that number.

Oh, and in true cichlid fashion, once they start you won't be able to get them to stop breeding. So you may get stuck with a few hundred angelfish if you don't have someplace that will take them.

No matter what you do, good luck!