View Full Version : check this out... ridiculous
plah831
10-30-2006, 10:15 PM
I can't believe this description of dwarf puffers at AZ Gardens
http://azgardens.com/misc_fish.php
I posted this over at dwarfpuffers.com a while back, but realized I forgot to do it here.
"Irresponsible" is all I can say. I may be an "internet know-it-all" but at least my fish aren't going to die of puffer wounds.
plah831
10-30-2006, 11:32 PM
I have copied this thread from General FW.
Quote from the above link:
Remember, these are a schooling fish. KEEP THEM IN GROUPS, BIG GROUPS! Perhaps the people that have had aggressive dwarf puffers kept them secluded without any buddies, or maybe they had only a pair, where they were only defending themselves or their eggs. Other instances of fin-nipping might occur due to improper water parameters, lack of territorial borders, or a lack of quantity!! .... They won't harm your Amano shrimp because their mouths are just too tiny.
Uh, I beg to differ!
125gJoe
10-31-2006, 2:54 AM
I will never again deal with "AZ Gardens". Years ago I called in an order and was promised "quality" fish and shrimp. A few SAE's made it alive, the rest were DOA (dead on arrival). The shrimp were so dead it looked like they were steamed with Old Bay seasoning!
I lost a good chunk of money. No need to elaborate on this, but be cautious if you order from them.
:mad:
(maybe by some chance they figured out how to ship "live" products..)
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fishcatch22
10-31-2006, 3:15 AM
send them an e-mail, and tell them the correct info and the correct way to deal with them, please. give me their e-mail, paula, and i'll do it, too.
125gJoe
10-31-2006, 3:23 AM
send them an e-mail, and tell them the correct info and the correct way to deal with them, please. give me their e-mail, paula, and i'll do it, too.Good luck...
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fishcatch22
10-31-2006, 3:28 AM
Good luck...
_______i'll need it, eh?
jm1212
10-31-2006, 4:55 PM
I have copied this thread from General FW.
Quote from the above link:
Remember, these are a schooling fish. KEEP THEM IN GROUPS, BIG GROUPS! Perhaps the people that have had aggressive dwarf puffers kept them secluded without any buddies, or maybe they had only a pair, where they were only defending themselves or their eggs. Other instances of fin-nipping might occur due to improper water parameters, lack of territorial borders, or a lack of quantity!! .... They won't harm your Amano shrimp because their mouths are just too tiny.
Uh, I beg to differ!
hehe go ahead and keep them in big groups... you'll have a big group for a long time, but you wont see any of them. they'll all have taken the porcelain express in a big group. they might just be "sleeping" in your septic tank!
fballguy
10-31-2006, 6:09 PM
send them an e-mail, and tell them the correct info and the correct way to deal with them, please. give me their e-mail, paula, and i'll do it, too.
I tried, they don't seem to care.
fishcatch22
10-31-2006, 6:14 PM
I tried, they don't seem to care.yeah....maybe we could tell the BBB.
plah831
10-31-2006, 8:56 PM
yeah....maybe we could tell the BBB.
Honestly, I don't think the Better Business Bureau would care either.
fishcatch22
10-31-2006, 9:00 PM
Honestly, I don't think the Better Business Bureau would care either.how about PETA? they'd slaughter them!
plah831
10-31-2006, 9:04 PM
how about PETA? they'd slaughter them!
yeah, try that!
fishcatch22
10-31-2006, 9:13 PM
yeah, try that!I don't know... that may be a little too harsh... how about TFH?
how about PETA? they'd slaughter them!I am not a very big fan of PETA, in fact I am against pretty much all of their core beliefs. But anyways, it is my understanding that they won't help you out. They are anti-fishkeeping, whether we are being humane about it or not. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that this has already been discussed at some length.
plah831
10-31-2006, 9:34 PM
They are anti-fishkeeping, whether we are being humane about it or not.
I think you're right. I agree with Elizabeth, I don't think there's much we can do about this. Just make an effort to educate ourselves and others.
fishcatch22
10-31-2006, 9:37 PM
I think you're right. I agree with Elizabeth, I don't think there's much we can do about this. Just make an effort to educate ourselves and others.we do that all the time, anyway...
FreddytheFish
10-31-2006, 9:42 PM
IMO, the best you can do is email them, alert members on forums, than drop it.