help with plant id pls think its wisteria

[Dunluce2]

i bought some of this from a stock and station agent thats getting into selling fish. a bloke brought a heap in. my uncle used to grow it. Neither actuaaly knew the name of it. it looks like wisteria. it propogates by little plantlets forming on existing or dislodged leaves {see pic 3}. grows like mad. wanted to get a confirm of i.d. Any ideas anyone

[Blueiz]

Looks like wisteria to me..

Blue

[Dunluce2]

does wisteria propogate that way. at the other lfs ive been to their a clump of leaves/stems together, wieghted down with stuff all roots. then jammed in the gravel. maybe thats just how the harvest it for the stores and once it sets root it propogates this way.

[kjf91004]

Wisteria is one of those "magical" plants that will propogate pretty much any way it can... and jammiing stems into the gravel is one of those ways. I actually get roots sprouting out of the leaf nodes. The bigger question becomes how can you control it. It likes to take over.

[plah831]

It actually looks like watersprite, Ceratopteris cornuta to me. Hard to see, cuz pics are small. Same propogation, tho, you can cut it wherever you like.

[Blueiz]

It actually looks like watersprite, Ceratopteris cornuta to me. Hard to see, cuz pics are small. Same propogation, tho, you can cut it wherever you like.
Water sprite has skinny leaves that are more forked..

[Blueiz]

First pic, wisteria, second pic, watersprite :

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/blueiz25/100_1039.jpg

[plah831]

There are two popular species of watersprite, same genus. Here's the one I'm referring to, C. cornuta
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5637/ceratopterislrgrzi8.th.jpg (http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ceratopterislrgrzi8.jpg)

The one pictured above (blue's post) is C. thalictroides

[kjf91004]

Funny, I was thinking the exact opposite. LOL! It seems that there is a bunch of confusion on this elsewhere as well. Here's a link to the krib that seems to clear it up a little, but there are not any pics, so it isn't too much help. I think what I got out of it is that they are both very similar,although from very different families. The watersprite family does better floating (although will survive rooted) and wisteria will do better planted.

http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Plants/water-sprite.html

I bought wisteria from Doc Fosters (usually reputable) and it looks identical to those pics. Not too much experience, but only my 2c. It is difficult also because wisteria looks very different in different situations.

Either way, they are both nice plants that will make a great addition to your aquarium.

[plah831]

Either way, they are both nice plants that will make a great addition to your aquarium.
agreed. I also got some watersprite from Drs F+S, it was the thallictroides species. I personally prefer the oak leaf (cornuta) species as it's hardier and grows faster, in my experience with both. The one from DrsF+S died pretty soon. I'm not thrilled with their live plants, although I absolutely rely on them for my fish supplies! :)

[Dunluce2]

thanks for the input peoples. I'm in agreement in that I think it is Ceratopteris cornuta. It defintely has an oak leaf and going of the links provided and searchs i did it fits all the descriptions to a T. I've seen the wisteria in the stores before and it just wasn't quite the same as this plant. Similar but a little different. The pic plah381 provided is very close to the mark. Thank you for your help. Very much appreciated.

[plah831]

I'm in agreement in that I think it is Ceratopteris cornuta. It defintely has an oak leaf and going of the links provided and searchs i did it fits all the descriptions to a T... The pic plah381 provided is very close to the mark. Thank you for your help. Very much appreciated.
yay! Glad to be of help :)