New 29 g tank & impatient hubby Help appreciated

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Hello and Happy New Year to all you wonderful folks!

This is my first post, so please forgive if I don't have correct font, etc.

My husband got a 29 g tank for Christmas. Because of physical limitations on his part I’m the one who put together the stand & set up the tank & will be doing the maintenance. He had a 110 g tank in the past. I’m a total newbie.

I rinsed all the gravel, decorations, fake plants, etc. really well and put into tank, added some water (treated for chlorine & chloramide) (no leaks!), rinsed filter, cartridge & heater (set for 76 deg F, & positioned them, rinsed & blew out airline, put in check-valve & attached it to the air-stone & air pump, added rest of the water, turned equipment on & let everything run. I then googled & did a crash course on cycling a tank, testing & everything else I could cram into my brain.

Soooooo, 2 days later I’m ready to get test kit, ammonia & to start fish-less cycle when hubby brings home 10 guppies. Yikes! sez I – run out & get test kit. Our water is hard, TH approx. 150 ppm GH, total alkalinity approx. 180 ppm KH (good buffering capacity, yes?), pH 7.4. He’s worried about pH – wants it to be 7.0. I try to explain Nitrogen cycle to him - try to tell him pH is fine its ammonia & nitrite we need to worry about. He grew up in the Bronx & kept fish before – need I say more??? LOL

I did a 10% water change after 24 hours which he told me not to bother with. Again I talked nitrogen cycle & good bacteria. Next day, 6 platies appear. SIGH. So I’m testing, not feeding much, doing water changes, crossing my fingers. Next day “the bloom”! SIGH Lost 3 guppies. Water change – more grief from hubby.

Today, nitrite < 0.5 ppm, nitrate 20 ppm. Tell hubby I will be doing another 10% water change to dilute the “baddies”. He says “Won’t that dilute the barteria?” BREAKTHROUGH! The good guys are NOT free-floating in the water, I explain, but growing as fast as they can on filter media, gravel, ornaments. Oh, he says. So I can now do water changes without grief. But he still doesn’t believe pH 7.4 is OK.

Now, my question. What can I do to keep the fish as comfortable as possible as the tank cycles?
 
Hi, I am aslo a newbie (3 Months) I have some of the same water conditions as you and since i've lost no fish yet in my trial and error tank setup I thought I could lend some advice. My water is very hard and the fish don't seem to mind a bit, I also have a pretty high ph of about 7.5. In all honesty the fish don't seem to mind that either. I'm keeping 3 Tetra's, 1 Cory, 1 Upside down cat, 1 Pleco, and 1 Albino Rainbow shark. I will say that I didn't add fish quite as fast but I also didn't do a fishless cycle. I'm just now after almost 3 months finding no traces of Ammonia. I have however been using a bacteria booster in spite of what some recomment. Using one of the stress zyme products. I also have been changing my filter media less. In fact I stopped for now. The only think that i have been doing religiously is my water changes, I would say something like 20 - 25 percent a week. I'm hoping to start backing that off now that things are looking good with my ammonia. I also bought a water filter for the tap to hopefully remove some of the minerals and soften. Anyway, I would just keep on a reqular water change schedule and then back off when things settle down. As i said i've had no fish losses and no major algae blooms, but I wouldn't add any more fish for some time.
 
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I would find a friend or a trusted fish store to get some filter sludge from them. Squeeze some out into a bag, take it right to the tank and put it in the filter. That will help seed the filters and reduce the cycle time. What kind of filter is it? If it has cartridges don't replace them, but rinse them out occasionally (in tank water from the water change)

Dont get too impatient and rinse them too soon. I would let them go for a month initially to make sure they are good and cycled.

I have set tanks up in a day before using old filter media, so it does help tremendously.
 
you sound very informed with what you know about the cycling and they you shouldnt add fish until its cycled. someone did their reasearch :D

just keep testing the water (good job getting a test kit ASAP, you know what youre doing!) and do a 50% water change if the ammonia or nitrite are over .5.

your pH is fine. tell your husband that a stable pH is much better than a fluctuating one artificially altered with chemicals. livebearers like higher pHs anyway.

now on to the stocking. that is way to many fish for a 29 gallon tank, fully cycled and established or brand new. ask your husband to take the guppies or platies back or make a compromise and take back half of each.
 
GET BIO-SPIRA. It is beneficial bacteria in a bag (literally) and will cycle your tank within a week (and you won't get a high ammonia spike). Many good Aquarium stores carry it or you can order it online. A single dose is about 12 bucks. You can also get an extra bag- keep it in the fridge- and everytime your husband comes home with 4 or 5 new additions in the future, you can squeeze a little of this stuff in to prevent new ammonia spikes.
 
WhitneyGail said:
GET BIO-SPIRA. It is beneficial bacteria in a bag (literally) and will cycle your tank within a week (and you won't get a high ammonia spike). Many good Aquarium stores carry it or you can order it online. A single dose is about 12 bucks. You can also get an extra bag- keep it in the fridge- and everytime your husband comes home with 4 or 5 new additions in the future, you can squeeze a little of this stuff in to prevent new ammonia spikes.
Bio spira is a great product, but is kind of costly. I use it as an alternative to established filters that I (or my friends) already have. I hate paying for something that I can get for free lol...
 
Mgamer20o0 said:
i would do 50% change. you can do it every day until the ammonia drops to zero. if you have to you could do higher % or more then one a day. looks like your off to the right start. now to train your husband.
ROFL! Train hubby... hmmm... I'd have better luck training pet rock to jump!

I just did another water change & have another bucket aging to do another before I go to bed tonight. (No vac yet - am faking my way through this)
 
Thanks for info. I've been changing water & testing & changing water & testing & working on hubby. :)

Once things cycle & settle, what are sugestions for stocking? Hubby wants to keep some platies.
 
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